New Dom2 Quick Reference Sheet

[Gothmog]

Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
The whole amazing glut of info *snipped*

Good GRIEF, Saber Cherry. You're amazing. I'll try and get this stuff in over the next few days...
Great job! Boy do I have my work cut out for me!

Oh and great addition of the leader types. That'll work great.

[Saber Cherry]

Originally posted by Gothmog:

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Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
The whole amazing glut of info *snipped*

Good GRIEF, Saber Cherry. You're amazing. I'll try and get this stuff in over the next few days...
Great job! Boy do I have my work cut out for me!

Oh and great addition of the leader types. That'll work great.

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Yeah, you BETTER appreciate it! I was supposed to be working and you distracted me

P.S. This might not all fit on your cute little reference chart, so if it doesn't, don't worry=) However, some things you might be able to condense by iconizing them: Flying, Poison, Stealthy, Fireproof, Trample, and etc have icons... and some, like Heavy and Light Cavalry, might be iconized by cutting a typical HCAV and LCAV unit pic from the game.

But please, don't feel pressured to do a huge amount of work just because I posted some information - if it's not fun, don't bother

[ January 15, 2004, 21:14: Message edited by: Saber Cherry ]

[Saber Cherry]

Default Theme Nation Overview

National Priests and Mages:

Abbreviations: Fire Earth Air Water aStral Death Nature Blood Holy Unholy

Aby: FFF BBB SS ? HHHH
Atl: WWW SS ?? HHHH
Pyt: SSS AA W ? HHHH
Man: NNN AA ? HH
Ulm: EE F HH
Cti: DDD N S ? HHHH
Arc: SSS N F E A W ??? HHH
Cae: AAA WW ? HHH
Erm: DD SS ? UUU
Mar: FFF SS ? HHHH
Pan: NNN EE BB ? HHH
Van: AAA EEE B ? HHH
Jot: WW BB D N ?? HHH
Rly: SSS W ?? HHH
Mic: BBB WW SS FF HHHH
Tie: WW A S F ? HHH
Mac: FF EE NN D ? HHH


National Troops:

arc=archers, xbow=crossbow, lbow=longbow, cmpbow=composite bow, sling=slingers, jav=javelins, psu=powerful sacred units, trmp=tramplers, bzk=berzerkers, fly=fliers, stealth=stealthy units, standard=has a standard-bearing unit, HCAV=heavy cavalry, MCAV=medium cavalry, LCAV=light cavalry, HI=Heavy Infantry, MI=Medium Inf, LI=Light Infantry, MLT=militia, monster=monsters (like hydras and spiders), poison (poison-using units), shifter (shape-shifters, like werewolves and were-spiders)

Cutoffs:
Light = Protection < 9
Medium = Protection 9 - 15
Heavy = Protection 16+

Aby: MI HI psu bzk monster
Atl: LI HI psu trmp poison
Pyt: MI HI HCAV jav monster poison standard
Man: MLT MI HI LCAV HCAV lbow sling psu stealth
Ulm: HI HCAV xbow
Cti: MLT LI MI HI jav monster poison standard
Arc: LI HI LCAV MCAV sling psu trmp monster
Cae: LI MI HI arc psu trmp fly monster
Erm: MI HI jav standard
Mar: MI HI HCAV xbow psu
Pan: MLT LI MI MCAV HCAV jav lbow trmp bzk fly stealth monster
Van: MI jav bzk psu stealth shifter fly
Jot: MLT MI HI LCAV jav stealth
Rly: MLT LI MI HI psu trmp monster
Mic: MLT LI MI sling jav psu standard shifter fly
Tie: MI HI LCAV MCAV cmpbow
Mac: MLT LI HI LCAV HCAV arc jav stealth psu monster poison


National Leaders:

assn=assassins, spy=spies, scout=scout, sprst=Stealth PRieSTs, sacrifice=Blood SaCrifice, srm=SacRed Mages, summon=summon allies, fly=flying, sail=sailing max=max leadership, stmax=stealthy max leadership

Aby: assn fly srm sacrifice max=50
Atl: scout srm max=125
Pyt: scout assn srm max=50
Man: scout spy srm max=50 stmax=25
Ulm: spy max=50
Cti: assn max=75
Arc: scout srm max=75
Cae: scout fly max=25
Erm: summon max=25
Mar: scout spy assn sprst srm max=80 stmax=25
Pan: scout sprst summon fly srm stmax=50
Van: scout sprst sail srm sacrifice stmax=50
Jot: scout max=50 stmax=25
Rly: scout summon srm max=25
Mic: scout summon srm sacrifice max=75
Tie: scout spy srm max=75
Mac: assn sprst shifter max=50 stmax=10


National Ranged Weapons:

sbow=short bow, xbow=crossbow, lbow=longbow, cmpbow=composite bow, sling=sling, jav=javelins, web=spider web spit, p.sling=poison sling

Aby: -
Atl: -
Pyt: jav
Man: lbow, sling
Ulm: arbalest
Cti: jav, p.sling
Arc: sling, jav, sbow
Cae: sbow
Erm: jav
Mar: xbow
Pan: lbow, jav
Van: jav
Jot: jav, boulders
Rly: mind bLast
Mic: jav, sling
Tie: cmpbow
Mac: sbow, jav, web


National Abilities:

Aby: heatproof, radiate heat, superhuman stats, likes heat+3, supply immune to death scale, wasteland survival, low precision
Atl: amphibious, aquatic units
Pyt: 2 strat move, communion slaves,
Man: spell-songs, cheap temples, exceptional archers
Ulm: cheap forging, drain immunity, low MR, super-heavy armor, +25% resources at castles
Cti: coldblooded, poison resistant, likes heat+1, low morale
Arc: troop-healing, scrying in dominion, cheap labs
Cae: flying, coldproof, high precision, cold-tempering armor, eat a lot, likes cold+3, magical weapons
Erm:
Mar: priests suppress enemy dominion, high morale
Pan: recuperation for all units, low morale
Van: glamour on sacred units, likes cold+1
Jot: coldproof, giant and tiny units, likes cold+2
Rly: amphibious, aquatic units, high MR, high morale units, mindless units, magical units, mind-bLasting, hybrids in coastal provinces
Mic: priests cannot preach, must blood sacrifice
Tie: can summon celestial warriors, order domain RARELY increases province defense
Mac: likes heat+2

-Cherry

P.S. Someone else can do the subthemes=)

[Gothmog]

Well, here's a quick update.
Update image

I've tried to incorporate as much of Saber Cherry excellent data, but I've tried to forgo the whole abbreviation thing. (This was supposed to be geared toward newbies after all.) I'll probably have to drop the keyboard shortcuts, and put it on a LEGAL size sheet because of adding in the Themes. What do you think of the screenshot?

Originally posted by Saber Cherry:

P.S. Someone else can do the subthemes=)

Well, everyone since we can't bother SC to gather anymore info, on account of SCs already impressive contribution, please help by gathering theme information in the form SCs already submitted. As you can see on the screenshot, I've got alot of blank cells to fill...

I can give you all the information on the themes, but from what I can tell what exactly do you want?

I dont' quite get the national mages part, you want to put the highest possible of each type? Or the strongest mage/priest?

There are not really all that many units per race. Maybe you could just add the basic types and the special ones.

And maybe a little section with the name of what the Sacreds are.

I can compile a list together if you can use the information. I already have most of it from doing the Nation/Theme Strength/Weakness guide that is in progress.

[HJ]

Ok, here's the magic per theme:
Abysia Humans: FFF BBB SS ? HHHH
Pythium Serpents: NN W ? HHH
Man Tuatha: AAA NN ? HHH
Ulm Faith: E ? HHH
Ulm Forest: SS BB DD ? HH
C'tis Tombs: DDD F N S ? HHHH UUUU
C'tis Miasma: DD NN W S ? HHHH
Caelum Raptors: AAA DD E W HH
Marignon Fires: FFF SS ? HHHH
Marignon Demonic: FF BB ? HHHH
Marignon Conquerors: AA SS F ? HHHH
Pangaea New: NNN E ? HH
Pangaea Carrion: NNN DD HH UUU
Vanheim Midgard: AA SS B ?? HHH
Vanheim Hellheim: DDD AA EE B ? HHH
Jotunheim Utgard: SS DD WW BB N ? HHH
Jotunheim Niefelheim: WWW DD BB N ?? HHH
T'ien Ch'i Barbarians: WW F A S D ? HHH
T'ien Ch'i S&A: WW F S A E N D ?? HHH
Ermor Soul: DDD ? UUUU
Ermor Ashen: DDD ? UUUU

edit: added magic available through national mage summons

[ January 16, 2004, 06:17: Message edited by: HJ ]

[Saber Cherry]

Looks great! In the meantime, Fires of the Faith is exactly the same as Marignon default, so you can probably skip it=)

Oh, and sorry for the abbreviations... by summoning, I meant free summoning. So Mictlan's leaders can get free slaves warriors; they don't get any special demons as far as I know, though they might.

Anyway... hmm... the chart looks excellent, but it's also getting a little crowded. So if you can't fit everything, just dump some of the info=) A concise chart is as good as a thorough one! I'll try to make some icons for you to use and send them, like overlapped magic symbols. That would save SOME space.

Edit: I emailed you some slightly smaller, slightly cleaner magic symbols...

-Cherry

[ January 16, 2004, 02:04: Message edited by: Saber Cherry ]