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January 18th, 2004, 11:08 PM
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Re: comp problem help
Umm yeah thats kinda the problem. I can't play anything newer than about 3 years old including dom 2. To check it out I did a dxdiag and on testing dx8 for direct 3d it does the exact same thing as when I try to play a newer game. Thats what made me first try "repairing" directx and then when that diddn't work reinstalling drivers for my card. So I actually haven't changed anything that i've been using for the Last 5 months or so.
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January 18th, 2004, 11:15 PM
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Re: comp problem help
It sounds like it is definitely the 3D acceleration on the video card that is the problem, for whatever reason, since it is crashing whenever it tries to use 3D acceleration. If you have updated the drivers for the video card itself to the manufacturer's latest, and it still blows up, then you could try some 3rd party drivers for the card, of which there do exist one or two, which were suggested to me when I was noticing low frame rate using the manufacturer's drivers in Doms2. I don't have that reference right now - I think it was Sabre Cherry who came up with the links...
It's also possible that your video card is just plain messed up physically (maybe dusting it off, and taking it out and putting it back in physically would help...), or is somehow incompatible with your other hardware (or motherboard BIOS, or who knows what), or it just needs some sort of setting change.
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January 19th, 2004, 12:34 AM
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Re: comp problem help
I'm running a Ge2 Ti card with Dx8.1 and nVidia 6.13.10.4109 drivers (is this Version 41.09?) on W2k with SP-2. Don't have ... big problems like that (ok, there are small errors in some games, but that's nothing to worry about. Might occure with any card today).
Looks to me like your machine is thoroughly screwed up. Get yourself
- a DX-Deinstaller to get rid of a potentially faulty installation
- a nVidia-Deinstaller to get rid of ...
.. both do not deinstall (completely] via the system/software setup screen.
Re-install DX8.1, than the card drivers. Do not use the latest card drivers, as support for the older cards maybe broken. Use an older driver - the Last one where the readme lists fixes for the 2Ti card. (dunno which it is, check it out..)
Run DxDiag ...
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PS: don't forget to clean the card's fan and heatsink
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January 19th, 2004, 01:33 AM
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Re: comp problem help
Perhaps I haven't been clear enough. I did not change anything dirvers, dx, etc. it just stopped working on anything that requires DX8 and up. I have deinstalled drivers and dx then reinstalled the same ones i've been using since august with no problems. I will try the remove/clean/reinsert on my card, but that is the Last thing I know of that I can try.
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January 19th, 2004, 03:31 AM
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Well that created more problems than it helped. I had to restore my registry after I booted. Don't have a clue why it died. But I was able to get it to run the dx8 test, then the dx9 test messed up. Rebooted and now 8 won't work anymore again. Well anyways thanks for the help but I don't think I can find the awnser here.
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January 19th, 2004, 05:42 AM
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Re: comp problem help
If you don't mind some advice from a computer tech;
it may be your power supply failing to supply proper voltage to your card, or it may be heat from things that are overclocked causing instability under stress. When it isn't a driver problem these are the most common issues with hardware that hasn't failed outright. ANd as your problem started without you doing anything, the power supply dying is my best guess. If your bios has voltage monitoring built in check out the readings... If your 3.3 volt line is reading 3, or your 5 volt 4.7 etc..., try a new power supply.
Also, check the fan on your video card and in your case, make sure they work, if the fans seem to be working well try raising the voltage a tiny bit (~5%) on your ram and CPU.
If that doesn't do it, a geforce 2 is a Dx7 part, it does not support all the features of dx8 much less dx9. These are handled in a software emulation mode, it may well be that your box is just not stable enough to handle the stress of emulating the hardware. I'd check your ram timings (if they are 6-2-2 set them to 7-3-3 or 8-4-4) and if your box is already overclocked set it back to the default bus speeds.
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January 19th, 2004, 08:23 AM
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Re: comp problem help
Wow thanks but I have already determined that the card is the problem. Used it in another comp and within 5 min same problems started happening. The worst part is that all I have left to rely on is my old pos Rage Fury MAXX. Thanks all for the help.
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