Urgent. Host Cheating: Problem and Solution.

Saber Cherry · #1 January 25th, 2004, 05:35 AM

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Originally posted by Zapmeister:
[QB] Hmmm. Is there really much to be gained by reducing a fabulous advantage to a merely huge advantage?

When I posted I thought I had a solution - it was not until 1/2-way thru that I realized it was only a partial solution

Oh well...

#2 January 25th, 2004, 05:39 AM

Don't worry Cherry! I'll only cheat if I'm playing with you!

Saber Cherry · #3 January 25th, 2004, 09:42 AM

Oh, wait, I figured it out. OK:

"Force Host Disabled"

and

"Master Password Disabled"

will allow perfectly cheatproof network play. Nothing, to my knowledge, can prevent host cheating in pbem. But still, allowing for the possibility of cheatproof play is... in my opinion... more than just a good idea. Obviously, it's best to play with a host who is trustworthy, but in the shady Vegas $50k Dominions II blitz games I play... one can never be too careful, ya know...

-Cherry

PhilD · #4 January 25th, 2004, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
Oh, wait, I figured it out. OK:

"Force Host Disabled"

and

"Master Password Disabled"

will allow perfectly cheatproof network play. Nothing, to my knowledge, can prevent host cheating in pbem. But still, allowing for the possibility of cheatproof play is... in my opinion... more than just a good idea. Obviously, it's best to play with a host who is trustworthy, but in the shady Vegas $50k Dominions II blitz games I play... one can never be too careful, ya know...

-Cherry

Considering the "Master Password" option is one that was added at the players' request, so that dropping players could at least be turned to AI... I think you're mainly trying to make the devs go nuts

Gandalf Parker · #5 January 26th, 2004, 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by PhilD:
Considering the "Master Password" option is one that was added at the players' request, so that dropping players could at least be turned to AI... I think you're mainly trying to make the devs go nuts

Ahhh I wondered what that was. (probably in the docs somwhere but never got around to looking for it). Oh but now I have to bug them to see if its included as a command-line switch.

Saber Cherry · #6 January 25th, 2004, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhilD:
Considering the "Master Password" option is one that was added at the players' request, so that dropping players could at least be turned to AI... I think you're mainly trying to make the devs go nuts

No, this is a legitimate concern

Really! If two people want to play competitively, and one of them is a known cheater... well, that's currently impossible without a 3rd-party host!

johan osterman · #7 January 25th, 2004, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Saber Cherry:

quote:
Originally posted by PhilD:
Considering the "Master Password" option is one that was added at the players' request, so that dropping players could at least be turned to AI... I think you're mainly trying to make the devs go nuts

No, this is a legitimate concern Really! If two people want to play competitively, and one of them is a known cheater... well, that's currently impossible without a 3rd-party host!

Not that it is any of my concern with whom you want to play, but why would you play with a known cheater. I would avoid them like the plague.