Missing Features

[Raging Idiot]

Well I agree with the lock spell points idea but if you start by giving all your points to the Category highest on the list (that you want to allocate points to) the rest will just draw from that one.

[Saber Cherry]

Originally posted by Lord_Devi:
I see polls for typo's, bugs etc.. but what about general input?

Oh, you're looking for this.

[Lord_Devi]

Oh yah! That IS a good idea, "Fire for two rounds at closest, then either stop or fire at archers".

Speaking of which that reminds me of another feature I think is probably an oversight... Ranged attack units don't have the option to "Fire" at "Rearmost" units. You can /kind/ of do this by ordering them to Fire at archers... but that's not the same.


EDIT: Ah yeah =) That is what I was looking for.

Oh well.

[ January 26, 2004, 21:02: Message edited by: Lord_Devi ]

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Lord_Devi:
Speaking of which that reminds me of another feature I think is probably an oversight... Ranged attack units don't have the option to "Fire" at "Rearmost" units. You can /kind/ of do this by ordering them to Fire at archers... but that's not the same.

This was removed from Dominions 1, (where it was instead called fire commanders), in favour of play balance, and an improved relationship with historical battles. Archers tended to fire on what they could see, and there's no real way to see where the back of an enemy formation is in many cases.


EDIT: Ah yeah =) That is what I was looking for.

Oh well. [/QB][/quote]

[Lord_Devi]

If it's for realism reasons, i.e. they can't see the rearmost, what about archers? They are very frequently behind the infantry columns as well.

I think in real life also, that historically, it was very rare that battles occured on perfectly flat plains like they do in D2. I think that's probably an appreciated attempt at realism, but inherently flawed.

I'm curious though about the balance part - That could be a very good reason however. I wonder though how unbalancing it could really be. Properly protected or armoured command units etc shouldn't have much of a problem vs most projectiles. Unless it's a crossbow or an arbalest it shouldn't be too much of a danger - and those don't really have the range to reach the rear.

[ January 26, 2004, 21:31: Message edited by: Lord_Devi ]

[diamondspider]

Originally posted by Lord_Devi:
If it's for realism reasons, i.e. they can't see the rearmost, what about archers? They are very frequently behind the infantry columns as well.

I think in real life also, that historically, it was very rare that battles occured on perfectly flat plains like they do in D2. I think that's probably an appreciated attempt at realism, but inherently flawed.

I'm curious though about the balance part - That could be a very good reason however. I wonder though how unbalancing it could really be. Properly protected or armoured command units etc shouldn't have much of a problem vs most projectiles. Unless it's a crossbow or an arbalest it shouldn't be too much of a danger - and those don't really have the range to reach the rear.

Being able to target commanders right away wouldn't reflect real combat very well I think.

Sure, any army would LOVE to do it, but the commanders aren't going to make this easy for them. Mostly they'd do this by staying out of range.

I look at it that the replay mode is a bit of an abstraction of a bigger space. Fast unit can ride all the way into the command area perhaps, but being able to shoot that far, even with archers forward seems both unrealistic and unbalancing to me.

We've had to deal with this a lot in table top wargaming usually by making special rules that reflect the fact that the troops on the ground don't have the "omniscient eye" of the player.

Picking out a few people in a huge battle is going to be nearly impossible in most cases.

[ January 26, 2004, 21:40: Message edited by: diamondspider ]

[Lord_Devi]

Commanders are always mounted also however, whereas the infantry isn't. That gives the commanders a much higher profile, not to mention the gigantic pretender gods, hah - but yeah I see your point. It would be kinda menacing to have that ability.