Quick bits of feedback after about 100 hours of play

Thats what I ment Graeme. There is only a % chance that orders on Fire Rearmost will actually target them. Fire Rearmost is the only one that I know that functions this way, all other orders work right out of the box.

I believe it is a 20% or lower chance, from the tests I've done.

I may have phrased it wrong, but that's what I ment

Edit: Or it could have been any # of things that may or may not impact the game that we have no idea on. Having only 1 mounted unit on a battlefield is also not a good idea, as well as only 1 large unit (unless you have Air Shield or high prot) simply because of that.

[ January 30, 2004, 20:05: Message edited by: Zen ]

[Chris Byler]

Originally posted by Zen:
Thats what I ment Graeme. There is only a % chance that orders on Fire Rearmost will actually target them. Fire Rearmost is the only one that I know that functions this way, all other orders work right out of the box.

I believe it is a 20% or lower chance, from the tests I've done.

I may have phrased it wrong, but that's what I ment

Edit: Or it could have been any # of things that may or may not impact the game that we have no idea on. Having only 1 mounted unit on a battlefield is also not a good idea, as well as only 1 large unit (unless you have Air Shield or high prot) simply because of that.

Having only one large unit can even be a useful tactic, if it's something like a Crusher that is built to take it. Put the Crusher up front on attack closest, watch it get surrounded by enemies that can't get through its PROT, and watch all the enemies on fire large monsters decimate their own troops that are surrounding the Crusher.

Similarly, one flier, if it's an Iron Dragon.

I don't know how the game decides what qualifies as "cavalry" though. Is a Centaur cavalry? A chariot? A War Lobster? An elephant? A wolf rider? (I'm pretty sure elephants qualified in Dom I; I used fire cavalry orders to rout them faster, sometimes before they reached my lines).

Anything with the #mounted tag I believe.

Spiders, Black Hunters, Elephants, Cavalry, Any Centaurs (I dunno about Chariots, I've always had people fire on the Elephants first, but I believe that was because they were nearer than the Chariots), any commander with no feet slots, Mammoths, Behemoths, Great Lions (Summer Lions), Fay Boars, Salamanders, and probably a bunch of other things I can't think of off the top of my head.

I've never actually tried to fire on War Lobsters with Fire Cavalry, but I assume they are. I don't know where Shambler Thralls or Minotaurs stand either.

[ January 30, 2004, 21:07: Message edited by: Zen ]

[diamondspider]

Originally posted by Zen:
Well since you claimed the AI was *cheating* (as you put it) I'd assume you are not providing honest feedback on what you know, but your opinion about something you may or may not understand. I don't claim to understand the game in it's entirety, and even in part the Develeopers have said the same themselves. So I find it particularly hard that you suddenly know the secrets to the AI in a 100 hours, unless you are reading the code and can say.

It's hard to come to a discussion claiming "cheating" and "this is what is WRONG" when you in fact don't know if it's wrong, right, bad luck, circumstance, or in fact cheating. And blanket statements like "The AI this" are in fact very misleading.

I'd hope you'll find as you play with the game more and discover more about it, how you think it works, and how you were wrong about any number of things, you'd have more appreciation for that, but not everyone does.

You might want to read this thread again. I said that IF the unit is using the old command that allows targeting of commanders that it would be something that I couldn't do and therefore cheating.

Besides, my purpose as I clearly stated in my thread starter was to point out a few things that annoyed ME.

How you got to "right" and "wrong" is 100% about you and has nothing to do with me.

Do realize that I can dislike something and still not believe it is wrong. In any case, I do dislike one crossbowman targeting my one commander while being obsured by 100 other units and it seems I'm not alone in this dislike. I have every right to express that and did.

Trying to bully me out of my feeling isn't going to work.

[ January 30, 2004, 22:35: Message edited by: diamondspider ]

Since when has disagreeing with someones opinion been bullying? Or pointing out the flaws in an argument?

IF it is doing it, it is a bug and it has been at the very least acknowledged. But you'll find as you play the game more and the more you read these forums that half of what you consider a 'bug' is intentional or at least unfixable at current. Just like your bug of towers shooting poison slingshot. So stating that a remote possibility of what happened is a bug and therefore cheating is tainted by all the variables of the game and not so cut and dry.

If you feel that me arguing with what you consider 'wrong' is bullying, then so be it. But my opinion is that your argument is less based on fact and more based on ignorance, that we ALL have and takes time to overcome (so you think I'm not saying I don't have times where I don't know what is going on the same as everyone else).

Neither was I flaming you, if I was flaming you I'm sure you would have noticed as well as most of the forum. This forum is lacking much of the common flaming you find elsewhere and I think that is in part because it's rational discussion and not "Flame people often?" comments that prove no point.