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Old February 1st, 2004, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix

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why sacred?
lower upkeep & ability to get bless effects
Well I mean besides that. Those are the benefits for sacred troops no matter what. I mean: why do sacred troops make good communion slaves?

Well, I haven't tried the Communion really hard yet, but Communion Slaves are normally mages, and you want them in numbers - anything that lowers their upkeep is going to be nice.

As for the blessing - well, if you have, say, an Earth blessing, all of your slaves suddenly have Reinvigoration, which should help them remain in better shape. One Reinvigoration may not seem like much, but if it's multiplied by 4 or 8, it starts to pile up...

Plus, any spell that the master casts on himself also affects the slaves, so the blessing can be easy to distribute without concentrating the slaves on the battlefield.
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Old February 1st, 2004, 09:30 AM

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Things like Master Enslave, Undead Mastery, Gaia's Blessing and Arcane Domination can be instant battle winners in any particular situation. They are rarely used mostly because they are all Level 9. If you are on in the off chance of a game that Lasts long enough without a clear winner, or try to get one of these particular spells in order to counter another nation (Say Ermor or with Arcane Dominiation, most all other nations late in the game because of their reliance on summons) you can do it.

But they are much less of a 'go for it strategy' and much more of a 'I might as well try this because XXX made me'.

Most of the spells are uncastable by anything but a large communion or high magic pretenders/mages so I give them less thought normally until I'm presented with a situation to use them, instead of the other way around.
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Old February 1st, 2004, 12:16 PM

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Default Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix

During Dom1 times I once had some fun using communition in somewhat 'reverse' way. A horde of Marignon's initiates (fire1) with slave matrixes and one Grand Master (random in water) with master matrix.

GM had orders to cast quickness - phoenix power - (that astral spell that boosts all paths one up, forget the name), and what do you know, every one of those weeny initiates was hasted and hurling fireballs and -clouds by third turn. Don't know how feasible it is to use communion like that, but it was fun to watch anyway.
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Default Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix

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why sacred?
lower upkeep & ability to get bless effects
Well I mean besides that. Those are the benefits for sacred troops no matter what. I mean: why do sacred troops make good communion slaves?

Because of their lower upkeep. If you have an earth blessing it's even better, but the primary requisite of a communion slave is cheapness, because the more slaves the better. (Always have more slaves than masters or they WILL get drained to death.) Other abilities of the slave are largely irrelevant because they spend most of the battle unconscious.
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Old February 1st, 2004, 01:23 PM

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Default Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix

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why sacred?
lower upkeep & ability to get bless effects
Well I mean besides that. Those are the benefits for sacred troops no matter what. I mean: why do sacred troops make good communion slaves?

Because of their lower upkeep. If you have an earth blessing it's even better, but the primary requisite of a communion slave is cheapness, because the more slaves the better. (Always have more slaves than masters or they WILL get drained to death.) Other abilities of the slave are largely irrelevant because they spend most of the battle unconscious.

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Default Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix

Um Last question:

does the éxtra Fatigue which comes from Armor also get split up among the Slaves or is it only for the caster?

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Default Re: Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix

The base cost is divided up equally and then dealt with seperately by each member of the circle. Modifications for skill level (including the master's boosted skill), encumberence, and gem use are all applied at the individual level. This means each member has to pay for his own armor, so to speak.

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