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February 3rd, 2004, 06:53 PM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
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Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
I located some images for variations in trees. Making a "Stamp" or "brush" out of these should help some people.
http://tubes.ominix.com/art/foliage/index.html
The same site did have some nice waterfall stuff for a unique site.
Still looking for somewhere with lots of images of small well-drawn mountains or river.
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Nice site! I like this image for a new pretender:
http://tubes.ominix.com/art/characte...keleton-01.png
I saved at least a dozen of those tree and plant pictures. I'll be adding some to my "mapstuff" file for sure. Thanks for finding that!
Mokurai: I'm working on making a complete "mapstuff" file (though no doubt it will continue to grow ever larger). I'm also working on a mapmaking tutorial for photoshop. In the mean time, I'm sending you the mapstuff I already have that's ready for public consumption. And I very much appreciate the encouragement! As GP is fond of saying, "People don't know how to pay for free stuff anymore." Excellent example of how that's done.
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February 3rd, 2004, 10:50 PM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
I'll be busy for a few days here but have not lost my interest in map making!
I'll also reiterate my support and request for Targa's great looking map!
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February 3rd, 2004, 11:27 PM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
Hi,
I just wanted to add my support for Targa's and Gandalf's efforts. I'm really blown away by what Terraform can do. Is there any way to create a map file from the end result without doing it by hand? Those are lovely graphics that would really look sharp while playing.
Ciao,
V'ger gone
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February 4th, 2004, 12:37 AM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
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Originally posted by Vger:
I just wanted to add my support for Targa's and Gandalf's efforts. I'm really blown away by what Terraform can do. Is there any way to create a map file from the end result without doing it by hand? Those are lovely graphics that would really look sharp while playing.
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Is there anything we can rip out to a template file so we can use them to cut-n-paste on home made maps?
The terminology in this game is confusing. What did you want to do to a terragen map? Add provinces and capitals? Create the .map file with the correct terrain and neighbor commands? I kindof wish the .map files had an extension of .mmp or something we would know what we mean when we say map
[ February 03, 2004, 22:38: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]
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February 4th, 2004, 03:09 AM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
I was able to put in a bit more work on the map today, and updated the webmap:
http://www.techno-mage.com/~targa/webmap.jpg
Bottom half looks like it's getting there, although I keep finding myself making changes and tweaks. Re-painted all the mountains today due to the fact that I saw a picture of something Kristoffer drew and it made mine look like crap.  Added, erased, etc... (not gonna get into a long description this time. I'll let the pic speak for itself). Not really happy with the results I'm getting, but at least it will be playable. To top it off, my pen tablet is being fickle the Last couple of days.
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I just wanted to add my support for Targa's and Gandalf's efforts.
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Much appreciated. 
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February 4th, 2004, 04:54 AM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
I played with using one of Gandalf's GIMP-script maps in 3D max. I used it as a displacement map to "bump up" a plane for some topography. It worked fairly well, especially after I put some height-controlled textures on it to make the lowest parts water and snow-cap the highest, but the way I converted it to what I needed left too many artifacts.
Gandalf, can you generate one that uses just grayscale to represent height data? I was curious what might come out of it if I took something like that and made a real effort with it in Max instead of just goofing around for 10 minutes.
Having a nice 3D fly-over would be a great way to show off a map.
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February 4th, 2004, 04:58 AM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
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Originally posted by Psitticine:
Gandalf, can you generate one that uses just grayscale to represent height data? I was curious what might come out of it if I took something like that and made a real effort with it in Max instead of just goofing around for 10 minutes.
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Not sure I follow. You mean doing a GIMP render with just a gray palette? I could try that.
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August 22nd, 2004, 12:15 PM
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Re: Seeking map or need advice on making it
I thought Id dig up one of the old Posts on map making to try and spur some new growth there.
You can get "blank" maps that have been randomly generated at either my site www.dom2minions.com or from Leifs site at http://home.Online.no/~rmoldskr/Domi...nion_maps.html
His are done by the same generator program but a smoothing/blurring routine was added to make them less ugly. That can be done with the ugly maps at my site also (I just havent gotten it automated as part of the generation process) ask about it if you want to do that
Graphics for the maps have been provided by Illwinter but its kindof a bare collection. There are some great sites to get add-ons including David Gervais tiles that he made for some other games but which will help us out (he has given permission for it)
http://pousse.rapiere.free.fr/tome/index.htm
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