Can I make this forum sort the "normal" way?

mr.white · #1 February 3rd, 2004, 01:55 AM

I've gotten used to it, but I don't think it's an improvement compared to normal sorting.

I think you should follow the standard unless there are very good reasons not to.

PvK · #2 February 3rd, 2004, 04:54 AM

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Originally posted by Sindai:

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Originally posted by PvK:
Saying something like "every other forum" (or even "99%") sorts the other way is an exaggeration.

No it's not. Every other forum I have ever seen in the past six or seven years has been downward-sorting. I have never, ever seen another forum, of dozens and dozens, that sorted down-up instead of up-down. Why Shrapnel keeps things this way simply surpasses comprehension.

Apparently it does surpass several people's comprehension, at least. Folks from Shrapnel have explained it before though, and there is a reason, if not one that you folks will ever agree with. It should be an option, ideally, and I'm sure it would be if it were easy enough, since it's been discussed many times before. They have a lot to do, though, and the gaming business takes precendence over conformity on message sort order, which also makes some sense, at least to me.

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Has anyone else ever seen another forum that does this?

Yes. For example, the one at this link.

PvK

vanedor · #3 February 4th, 2004, 02:44 AM

But to me, it seems that the debate is between the old Users who are used to the way it works and the newer Users who are more used to the normal way.

I think if Illwinter and their publisher wish to grow, they have no choice but to adapt to the standards of the market. The current message board and Illwinter website, for example, are perfect for fan sites... but for a company wishing to become a big name, it's unprofessional. My grandma could make a better looking website, seriously. The shrapnel games Dom2 website looks much better but it lacks information. I know they got no people to do it but Dominions 2 should work well enough to let them hire an artist and a webmaster.

(edited to remove the link to the poll)

[ February 03, 2004, 13:32: Message edited by: vanedor ]

Gandalf Parker · #4 February 3rd, 2004, 03:29 PM

I think the vote doesnt provide enough answers. Is it taking for granted that we will have to start over with a blank forum or not?

In general I think the wording of the poll and especially the post sending us there is maybe alittle biased, maybe alitle rude, definetly opinionionated. Not a bad thing, being opinionated. As long as it doesnt try to paint a picture of some large agreeing crowd behind it.

[ February 03, 2004, 13:30: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

PDF · #5 February 3rd, 2004, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by vanedor:
Vote here : http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...;f=67;t=000040

But to me, it seems that the debate is between the old Users who are used to the way it works and the newer Users who are more used to the normal way.

I think if Illwinter and their publisher wish to grow, they have no choice but to adapt to the standards of the market. The current message board and Illwinter website, for example, are perfect for fan sites... but for a company wishing to become a big name, it's unprofessional. My grandma could make a better looking website, seriously. The shrapnel games Dom2 website looks much better but it lacks information. I know they got no people to do it but Dominions 2 should work well enough to let them hire an artist and a webmaster.

This a pretty arbitrary and patronizing way of expressing your opinion

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In the same vein, send your grandma's resume to apply for IW website design.

I particularly HATE sentences like

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"they have no choice but to adapt to the standards of the market"

: if IW or Shrapnel wanted to do that they'll publish crappy childish RTS or FPS

, never will Dominions ever nave been born !

vanedor · #6 February 3rd, 2004, 03:36 PM

Vote here : http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...;f=67;t=000040

The poll has been in effect for some time already. It has nothing to do with me or my opinion. Thank you.

vanedor · #7 February 3rd, 2004, 04:25 PM

"If IW or Shrapnel wanted to do that they'll publish crappy childish RTS or FPS , never will Dominions ever nave been born !"

I don't see why. A company doesnt have to look like a low budgetted amateurish company to produce great games. My words may seem a bit hard, but I fear that's actually how it looks right now. They created a great product and there is lot of money to be made with it. In my opinion, I don't think the game needs more races, spells or items. What it needs right now, to appeal to a greater mass and become a real success, is an improved interface, website and better sonor effects and graphics.