Give me good reasons why R'lyeh is a balanced nation.

Graeme Dice · #1 February 3rd, 2004, 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by Zen:
If you are only playing C'tis and they just owned your 'elite' Disentigration strategy and your whining about it, that's fine. But if you can't seem to beat R'lyeh, try exploiting some of the things listed below.

Actually, if his strategy depended on disintegration then I would think it would have problems with any nation that can throw cannon fodder at him easily, and R'Lyeh's lobo guards work quite well at that.

Raz 24 · #2 February 3rd, 2004, 07:27 AM

Sure they have mind bLast and stuff but theyre infantry is a tad bit lacking

Argitoth · #3 February 3rd, 2004, 07:34 AM

Wow Zen, let's not start a flame war.

Those mindbLasters have thick armor, 16 protection. They also have unroutable fodder troops. Their mages are really powerful. What are "Target Archers?"

And no, I wasn't owned by R'lyeh and decided to make this thread. I started it because the first time I was owned by R'lyeh (way before you guys were even born) I've been meaning to start this thread.

Also, fodder troops help, but are just as good as massing archers on my mages. My strategy has a lot more depth than just disintegration.

Edit: I would create mindless troops by casting Pale Riders and casting Arouse Hunger for the mindless commanders. (I guess that would work, but I only play C'tis, what about all the other nations?)

[ February 03, 2004, 05:36: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

#4 February 3rd, 2004, 07:35 AM

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[ February 03, 2004, 06:06: Message edited by: Zen ]

Argitoth · #5 February 3rd, 2004, 07:39 AM

#1. I did not get owned by R'lyeh anytime lately as I haven't VSed anyone playing R'lyeh.

#2. My strategy has a LOT of depth. Fodder and archers are not a weakness, not even fires from afar.

[ February 03, 2004, 05:46: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

Arryn · #6 February 3rd, 2004, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by Raz 24:
Sure they have mind bLast and stuff but theyre infantry is a tad bit lacking

Which is why I use lots and lots of summons (mage and void) as "cannon fodder". Trolls work well on the front lines, and undead make nifty garrison troops.

#7 February 3rd, 2004, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by Argitoth:
Those mindbLasters have thick armor, 16 protection. They also have unroutable fodder troops. Their mages are really powerful. What are "Target Archers?"

Arrows cut through 16 protection just fine. So do xbow bolts, so do flaming arrows.

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And no, I wasn't owned by R'lyeh and decided to make this thread. I started it because the first time I was owned by R'lyeh (way before you guys were even born) I've been meaning to start this thread.

Well then, obviously if you were owned by R'lyeh then you may need to look at some of the things implemented below if you feel they are 'so unbalanced' you needed a thread.

If it wasn't for the fact that paralyze cuts through MR so easily, they'd get torn up by Atlantis or anyone with any sort of cheap recruitable troop. All of yours are going to be better than any of R'lyeh's even if a bunch of them are paralyzed.

Mindless units tear up the fodder so that they don't kill your own fodder or other units. Know how many mind bLast attacks each Illithid gets? 10. If they don't have someone to kill the enemy units or paralyze all of yours, they are going to get eaten up.

R'lyeh is fun and interesting and has potential to give you a very bad time if you don't know their weaknesses, but are nowhere near close to overpowered or cheap.