Debate and Duel (D&D)

After Action Report.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Argitoth:
Edit: OMG!!! I THINK I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PRETENDER!!! What if he died because the dominion was too high in the province he was attacking? THAT MIGHT BE IT!

Did he have a never healing wound? If so, then that could be it.

[Osium]

Zen, I think you misunderstood what Argitoth was saying.

He said, he had his assasins scripted to retreat after the first cast as a precaution to being discovered not as part of the assasination attempt. Thats the reason why he had them scripted to retreat. Im unclear as to his complaint about the retreating on assasinations attempts. Ive never tried to script it, maybe his units attempted to retreat but since they can't they just stood there?

Obviously this is an instance of being "too clever for your own good". So what exactly happened? Did they just stand around and die? Did they rout off the map and auto die like mercs?

I can see where he is coming from. Since units CAN'T actually retreat from a battle, successfully or otherwise in an assasination attempt one would think that such an order would be disregarded. It appears as though they had some other unforseen reaction to retreating on an assasination attempt which I am curious to hear about ;p

On the other hand, im not sure this would have totally defeated his strategy, he could have simply gone into micro mode and adjusted his scripts whenever he attempted to assasinate. If they were active set them to attack. If they are passive set them to attack and retreat.

[Argitoth]

Lost an Eye, Weakened, Crippled, Feeble Minded.

I don't think it would matter if he had a never-healing would because my pretender got it once before, but overtime healed himself.

I don't think so. You can't retreat from an assassination. So in effect you have to when you try to "assasinate" someone place the command on the global screen. So while you can and probably should use "retreat" for patrolling forces to get you into position. As soon as you are in a province that you want to assassinate and give the command, you can't retreat from your assasination attempt so you would change the script.

It's a choice of either one way or the other. You can either take the chance of assassinating first but being discovered by patrollers and more than likely killed, or being discovered by patrollers first and escaping before you can do your assassination attempt.

If I was in such a position and I gave the Assassination command, I'd switch my script away from Retreat because you are not allowed to retreat from a assassination either initiated by you or another player.

[Osium]

I agree with you. I'd do the same thing. Im just wondering what exactly happens IF you try to retreat in an assasination attempt. Do you flee the battle and auto die ala mercs? Do you just stand around doing nothing? If thats the case, he probably didn't expect that to happen. He expected them to disregard an impossible order and fight on however. It wasn't the end of the world for his assasinations he just had to micro it out, but apparently he didn't want to do that ;p

[Arryn]

Retreat from assassination is 100% fatal. The unit will be 'retreated', and then killed (offscreen). That's the way the game is coded. I saw this happen (once) to one of my preaching priests in a SP game.