Wondering if people would be interested...

condors · #1 February 5th, 2004, 08:03 PM

sounds great

Gandalf Parker · #2 February 5th, 2004, 08:22 PM

Sounds good. At least I would get to see a spreadsheet that is ACTUALLY a spreadtsheet (excel must be the most abused program of all times)

It wont be a simple project though. You might start by screen capturing all the god choices and the text descripts of them. Seems to me that the initial cost of each, plus the different costs they have for adding magic, or adding dominion, will have to be included. And I guess if they are all there then you will need to include who does or doesnt get them.

What might be easier if you wanted to do it would be to do a generic one. It would only be useful for people doing things like manuall created gods to be assigned as part of a map, but it would be much easier since for that it can be any unit in the game (even things like Doom Horrors) and there are no costs. I have trouble doing the math so that my creations are at least CLOSE to what the game allows players to create. Hmmm in fact, if you could get it to write out or print a text screen of the commands to cut-n-paste that god into a map it would be great. Oh sorry. My brain kicks in and runs amuck. Anyway, your initial idea sounds great.

Scott Hebert · #3 February 5th, 2004, 09:05 PM

Well, I plan to use the information provided in the Excel spreadsheets that are Online (where, I forget). If they are not accurate, please LMK.

Regarding costs, AFAICT they are equal for all Pretenders. To increase your Dominion N times costs 7*(sigma N). That is, 7 for the first point, 14 for the second (for a total of 21), 21 for the 3rd point (for a total of 42), etc.

Magic increases work the same, except the base number is 8.

Scales and Castles are pretty much known.

This will more likely work with Access than Excel. I can run a simple query to select the parts I want (Fire 5, Earth 5, Dominion 5), and then it will tell you which Pretender gets that combination for the fewest points, and how many those are.

Right now it is supposed to be a utility to help you build a Pretender God for the right combination of things you want.

If there is anything incorrect in this post, please LMK and I'll get to work revising it.

Bayushi Tasogare

PhilD · #4 February 5th, 2004, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bayushi Tasogare:
Hi, I'm new here and to Dominions 2, but I think it's a great game and was thinking of doing something for it.

Bayushi Tasogare

I don't have much to comment on your spreadsheet idea (go for it! great idea! it's just too much work for me to take part in it!), but your nickname lets me believe we actually have two hobbies in common.

And no, I'm not volunteering to create the "Emerald Empire" mod. Maybe try it out when you're finished doing it

Scott Hebert · #5 February 5th, 2004, 09:39 PM

Shosuro Phil, then, I take it?

As for the Rokugan mod, I've already thought about it. Come on, it's not even that hard, and the current tensions in the Shadowlands between Iuchiban (Blood Magic) and Daigotsu (Death Magic) can even be highlighted.

One thing at a time.

Bayushi Tasogare

Gandalf Parker · #6 February 5th, 2004, 09:46 PM

Maybe Im not understanding then. Doesnt the fact that my pretender of choice already have a 3 in dominion and 2 in nature magic affect the costs?

aldin · #7 February 5th, 2004, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Maybe Im not understanding then. Doesnt the fact that my pretender of choice already have a 3 in dominion and 2 in nature magic affect the costs?

I believe that's where it buys from. In your example it would cost 7 points for dominion 4 and 8 for nature 3, whereas a natural dominion 2, nature 1 would pay 7 for dominion 3 and 8 for nature 2.

~Aldin