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February 5th, 2004, 09:50 PM
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Re: Wondering if people would be interested...
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Maybe Im not understanding then. Doesnt the fact that my pretender of choice already have a 3 in dominion and 2 in nature magic affect the costs?
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I believe that's where it buys from. In your example it would cost 7 points for dominion 4 and 8 for nature 3, whereas a natural dominion 2, nature 1 would pay 7 for dominion 3 and 8 for nature 2.
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February 5th, 2004, 10:05 PM
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Re: Wondering if people would be interested...
Aldin is correct. Let's say you have an Oracle (base Dominion 4) and an Archmage (base Dominion 1, 30 points). For the Oracle to have a Dominion of 6 costs 21 points. For the Archmage to have the same costs 105 points, plus his original cost of 30 points, for a grand total of 135 points. Thus, if all you want is a Dominion of 6, it is wiser to take an Oracle than an Archmage.
That's what the database will be designed to do. The above example is rather intuitive, but I hope to make it so that other much harder questions can be solved just as easily. The example is not meant to lecture or teach anyone the cost difference cited.
The cost to _increase_ Dominion or Magic skills use the same formula, however. At least, my research has led to that conclusion. Also, to get level 1 in a new magic path requires the number points mentioned under each Pretender God, and it _also_ counts as the first 'increase'. Therefore, the second point costs 16.
Hope this helps. When my fiancee is through playing Heroes IV, I'll probably start to work on this.
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February 5th, 2004, 10:31 PM
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February 6th, 2004, 01:33 AM
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Re: Wondering if people would be interested...
Well, you're the only Phil I know in L5R, for one, but the big giveaway was the fact that I knew you were from France, and at the bottom of each of your Messages it says "From: Bordeaux, France". Put those together and you come up with Shosuro Phil.
As for me, I'm Tasogare. That should say enough right there. ;p
As far as Clans go, Scorpion is the obvious choice for the Stealth people, Unicorn may be overbalanced by getting all the good Cav, Crab would be a lot like Ulm, Dragon might be like Abysia, not so sure about them... not too sure about Crane, either. The Bloodspeakers would be a lot like Mictlan (powerful Blood magic, really light troops), etc. Crane might be like Arco, but without the powerful mages or the Elephants.
Anyway, I'll think more on it and get back to you.
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February 6th, 2004, 11:24 AM
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Re: Wondering if people would be interested...
Those prices are correct. Magic goes with multiples of 8 and Dominion with multiples of 7. So it's very easy to make those calculations.
In my opinion Excel is better than Access for this. Queries are not that great for operating the system. Excel can handle all the same things and much more if you just use the right functions. If you use macros then it just gets better and easier.
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February 6th, 2004, 10:50 PM
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Re: Wondering if people would be interested...
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Originally posted by Bayushi Tasogare:
Well, you're the only Phil I know in L5R, for one, but the big giveaway was the fact that I knew you were from France, and at the bottom of each of your Messages it says "From: Bordeaux, France". Put those together and you come up with Shosuro Phil.
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Hah! I'm just one of the Bordeaux-located Phils. There's at least another L5R player in Bordeaux with the same first name (Philippe's a rather common first name around here, or at least it was in the 70's).
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