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		Feedback on my latest endeavor  on the server would be welcome. To quote myself: 
 
Pretender protection, stage 1 implemented:  
 
From now on, pretenders cannot be overwritten from within the game. For each nation, the first pretender to be uploaded will be squirreled away in a safe place and restored just before the game starts. In other words, you can no longer steal somebodys position.  
 
This could be problematic if somebody WANTED a pretender overwritten. To accomplish this, the game owner/creator now have the option to "kick all anonymous players" from the game. So to give up a position, just mark it as Anonymous and ask the game owner to kick all anonymous players.  
 
Kicking anonymous players before game start would probably be a sensible move in any case to avoid AWOL players. Or at least learning which players tend to go AWOL.  
 
This also means that being Anonymous is risky business, as it stands. If you have a problem with this, please let me know. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		What if somebody wants to overwrite himself? You should include the option for somebody who has claimed a slot to kick himself from the game. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
            
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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		Sorry Norfleet --- can't be done, since kicking somebody from the game involves a restart of the game server.  
I only want game owners to be able to restart games, though I could easily change that. That is why it is done the way it is. Alternate solution are welcome, especially if it includes a patch     
2 thing to keep in mind:
 
1. You can still kick yourself if you can contact the game owner: Mark yourself as Anonymous, contact the game owner and ask him to kick Anonymous players. Tough luck for those who wants to remain Anonymous, however.
 
2. Manual upload of your own pretender .2h file will be possible in the future. That way you could overwrite your own Pretender.
 
P.S: Careful with that word, "should". In the OSS world, that word can hang you out to dry real good. I've seen it happen and it's not a pretty sight.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 I almost always want to overwrite my pretender, so I hope you implement an easier method for this soon.  I'm a bit confused. Why would you do that? I'm guessing that you don't want to risk the nation taken while you are creating a pretender, but I would like to know. Makes it easier making the right design. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Its not uncommon for me to create a pretender then immeadiately regret something. And sometimes I will see how the joining is going and want to make changes to prepare for the opponents I will face. 
 
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		Esben, this is a  huge step forward. 
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		I got a "nagot gick fell" (or whatever) in the Pascentiful game after completing my Last turn, and the game seems to have hung... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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