Need to vent about "Vengeance of the Dead"

[Arryn]

Originally posted by SurvivalistMerc:
You are serious that a killed "dead one" during a VotD attack counts as a killed creature for the next VotD? AND the killing of the "dead one" doesn't destroy the "dead one" for next time?

Yes, and yes.

When you die, does your VotD count start over?

No. The spell appears to use the same counter as the commander's total kills for the HoF.

[velk]

One thing to consider with VotD is for your commanders that got killed by it - what's their chance of surviving a seeking arrow ? what's their chance of surviving wind ride ?

VotD is a bit of a two edged sword insofar as under normal circumstances it can only target the commanders most likely to survive it.

[Norfleet]

The real problem woth VotD is that it's game-breaking: If you start targetting a commander with only 1 kill, in about 14 castings, the number of undead involved will be over 10000, and the game will surely have barfed. There really has to be a limit somewhere, if only for sanity.

[GavinWheeler]

If you mean that VotD should limit the total number of vengeful dead, so you don't end up with a battle that freezes the server, I would agree.

If you mean that the spell is too powerful because you can keep on casting it on one commander until you finally swamp him, I would disagree. The amount of resources you would have had to invest in casting the spell over and over (by a spellcaster with high enough penetration to overcome any MR of the target) would seem to justify the end result.

(Not to mention the effort you would have to expend to keep track of that one commander so as to target him. Or the various Dome spells that could be used to protect the voctim and/or hit back at the caster)

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by GavinWheeler:
If you mean that VotD should limit the total number of vengeful dead, so you don't end up with a battle that freezes the server, I would agree.

That was my point, yes: The number of undead should be kept at a sane level so that the server doesn't simply die: Plus it brings up the auto-rout issues if the battle becomes TOO immensely long: The target in question may very well be able to utterly annihilate an unlimited quantity of the vengeful dead, since they can't harm him faster than he can regenerate, but the battle may very well easily drag out past 70 rounds: Does the targetted victim end up auto-routing and die automatically, or get automatically slain by the timer?

The fact that VotD has an exponential growth and no sanity brake is generally a bad thing, though, since it will very easily lock up the server in only a few castings.

[ February 26, 2004, 20:44: Message edited by: Norfleet ]