On Hold

[Arryn]

Even as a derivative work, who's legality is questionable, especially under draconian law such as the DMCA, lifting the map from another game violates any pretense of "fair use" clauses in old copyright law.

However, until such time as I get a "cease and desist" notice, I'll maintain the file on my site. I'm not IW, a for-profit organization, so I'm far less likely to annoy the lawyers.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Zen:
But if they have any issues; they are more than welcome to talk to me.

It's not you they'll have issues with, assuming they do, but any site that does hosting of a questionable item.

[Leif_-]

Originally posted by Arryn:
However, until such time as I get a "cease and desist" notice, I'll maintain the file on my site. I'm not IW, a for-profit organization, so I'm far less likely to annoy the lawyers.

INAL, but I would recommend against doing that. You can be held legally responsible, and you might, at least in theory, receive a harsher reaction than an e-mail telling you to take it down. Potentially you might even implicate Illwinter and Shrapnel since, because of this thread, it can be argued that they were likely to know about the violation.

What you should do is to take the map down for now, and send a polite request to the company who own the copyright to be allowed to use the modified map. I doubt you will receive anything but a polite but firm no, but that's still my advice.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Leif_-:
What you should do is to take the map down for now, and send a polite request to the company who own the copyright to be allowed to use the modified map. I doubt you will receive anything but a polite but firm no, but that's still my advice.

It was taken down a half-hour ago, and Zen has already sent another email.

[Aikamun]

Don't think Illwinter could be held responsible for a third party's actions. If they could, it would be too easy to sabotage / short sell / extort a company. Illwinter should not advertise, host, or promote any questionable files.

Aikamun

[ March 01, 2004, 11:47: Message edited by: Aikamun ]

[PDF]

I'm not that afraid of any issues, frankly claiming rights to a map of Europe would be pure BS
In addition the map WAS changed, so to me Zen is the map's rightholder, and if he's OK I'll host it . Those interested can PM or mail me.

[Arryn]

Zen is not okay with the idea, and it was he who specifically asked me to break the link on my site. I abide by the wishes of the author.