Blood Slave/magic Questions

[LintMan]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
I don't think you truly comprehend the awesome might of blood sacrifices on dominion spreading. Firstly, for maximum effect, you need strong dominion strength: Build a lot of temples, or take high dominion at creation.

Secondly, to avoid having the effect buried in background noise....sacrifice a *LOT* of blood slaves. In most of my Mictlan games, I generally drown my opponent's dominion in a sea of blood well before I ever face him, sometimes before I ever meet him, as my dominion strength can hit 10 in places 3 provinces out from the nearest border. I don't think you properly appreciate the power of the Sea of Blood.

Wow. Care to elaborate? How many is a lot? How many slaves are you sacrificing per turn nationwide? On a given front, do you use multiple sacrificers in multiple provinces? What level priests do you use?

Secondly, is it worth using all those slaves to do that, rather than, say, summoning demons or forging soul contracts? Or are you swimming in enough blood slaves to do both?

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
I don't think you properly appreciate the power of the Sea of Blood.

What I'm wondering is about how many searchers and patrollers do you like to put in a given province per thousand population? I'm never quite sure just how much the deaths from patrolling are offset by the growth scale.

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
I don't think you properly appreciate the power of the Sea of Blood.

What I'm wondering is about how many searchers and patrollers do you like to put in a given province per thousand population? I'm never quite sure just how much the deaths from patrolling are offset by the growth scale.

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Number of searchers don't have much to do with number of population in bloodhunted province. As long as population is larger than 5000 it is irrelivent. The number of slaves produced by your sercahers AND unrest generated by them will still be the same. I always try to choose the least income-wise province from 5000-6000 pop range, to give some breathing space for population loss due to bloodhunting and patrolling, while avoiding crippling more populated and rich provinces.

Not sure about patrollers though.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Stormbinder:
I always try to choose the least income-wise province from 5000-6000 pop range, to give some breathing space for population loss due to bloodhunting and patrolling, while avoiding crippling more populated and rich provinces.

The question is really about the interplay between the growth scale, unrest generated by bloodhunting, and population death caused by patrollers. There is likely to be some ideal combination that gives you the most benefits here.

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by Stormbinder:
I always try to choose the least income-wise province from 5000-6000 pop range, to give some breathing space for population loss due to bloodhunting and patrolling, while avoiding crippling more populated and rich provinces.

The question is really about the interplay between the growth scale, unrest generated by bloodhunting, and population death caused by patrollers. There is likely to be some ideal combination that gives you the most benefits here.

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Perhaps. But I was answering the "per thousand " part of your question, since whatver that ideal combination would be the number of population in the province is not part of it, since most efficient bloodhunting provinces would still be at 5K-6/7K population range, no matter how many searchers and partollers you have there and what your growth scale is (unless you took high death scale which may not be very good for bloodhunting purposes).

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
What I'm wondering is about how many searchers and patrollers do you like to put in a given province per thousand population? I'm never quite sure just how much the deaths from patrolling are offset by the growth scale.

One fully loaded, slightly experienced Tribal King(65 slaves) can reliably and completely control unrest for two SDR hunters. A newbie(50) TK sometimes loses control in spikes.

With growth-2, I can sustain a relatively stable population with one patrolling Tribal King and two SDR-equipped Mictlan Priests, in a province of > 15K pop, since the province grows at about 600 people per turn, and the patrol kills are maybe in the 100-300 range. With populations of less than 15K, I tend to go with just one hunter for patrolled hunting, and for provinces of < 8K, I forget about the patrollers and just do 0-tax hunts with 2 Priests per province. Any province with > 4K population gets hunted. The blood must flow.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Stormbinder:
since most efficient bloodhunting provinces would still be at 5K-6/7K population range,

What you are missing is that a province with a large enough population can grow in population faster than the patrols can kill it off, as long as only a certain number of blood hunters work that province. So yes, population definetly does matter.