The inteface of Dom2 is great

[alexti]

Originally posted by PDF:
Seriously, I'm an old MoM fan (still played it Last year ...) but now I'm sure Dom2 is superior in every aspect - except maybe learning curve !

It is superior in every aspect from our point of view. But there're many casual players who prefer simpler games. In dom2 you often have to really strain your brains to get anywhere. I (and I suppose most people here) find it a big part of fun, but I can understand many others who prefer to play quicker without putting too much effort. MoM and recently Civ3 and AOW2 cater to this kind of gaming much better. Not that you don't need to think there at all, but usually after establishing basic strategy, most of gameplay is kind of mechanical, which may be good or bad depending on the player's taste.

[ March 09, 2004, 00:07: Message edited by: alexti ]

[djtool]

WTF ? Dom2 already knocked MoM out of the throne ! [/QB]

MoM, for its time, had better graphics and a diplomacy system (human and AI that is. And understandbly simple but again lets take into account the time it was released.)

Dom2 is wonderfully diverse but until those things are implemented at a comparable level i wouldn't put it over MoM quite yet.

that sid meier stuff re-excited me about 'Pirates of the burning sea'...i so hope its the Online equivalent of pirates. That is my all-time favorite game.

[ March 09, 2004, 02:09: Message edited by: djtool ]

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Tuna-Fish:
And no, he isn't even a master designer who invented the Civ franchise, as it orginally started out as a computer Version of the Avalon Hill board game "Advanced Civilizations". When it comes to undeserved "glory", Sid Meier is the leech of the game industry.

He might not have done that much lately, but then he is also responsible for Pirates! and Railroad Tycoon, which make him worthy of all the glory he could ever want.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
He might not have done that much lately, but then he is also responsible for Pirates! and Railroad Tycoon, which make him worthy of all the glory he could ever want.

Ah, Pirates. One of the great, classic oldies where the magic, to this day, has still not been recaptured in anything recent. Lots of wannabe-Pirates!, but there's still only one true Pirates!.

And you gotta love the name: "Pirates!". There's just something about the names of old that are so much better, elegant, more succinct and yet more descriptive than the names of today.

[Arryn]

The April '04 issue of CG has an in-depth preview of the Pirates! 2 game currently in development, in which Sid is taking an active hand.


Tuna,

With regards to AC and Sid's role in it, I suggest you read Brian Reynolds' Designer's Notes for AC (page 236 of the game manual) which gives a detailed description of what portions of AC Sid was responsible for. And also read the credits page (p246). Before you spout opinions, it might help to actually know the facts. BTW, I've met both Sid and Brian, FWIW. If you knew them better than just what you're read in some slanted report you might actually give Sid some of the respect he deserves.

[ March 09, 2004, 12:38: Message edited by: Arryn ]

[von_Schmidt]

Originally posted by djtool:

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WTF ? Dom2 already knocked MoM out of the throne !

MoM, for its time, had better graphics and a diplomacy system (human and AI that is. And understandbly simple but again lets take into account the time it was released.)
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I played MOM Last week, and I noticed that the hero portraits and the battle graphics are actually superior to Dom2's - let alone Dom1.

The units are colourful, very well-drawn and despite the much lower resolution you get a better idea of what is going on (e.g. a paralysed unit turns grey. In Dom2 you have to guess why it is not moving).
And the global spell pix are funky! (Zombie Mastery anyone?).

Mom's map graphix are worse though; the AI cheats like nobody's business - and has to since it is braindead. GUI is perhaps a bit better than Dom's.

But the diplomacy is useless since the AI's all tend to be psycho's. 'We have the same outlook on life; we are both at war against the evil Shrraaa; you've paid tribute for the Last 10 turns. Of course, you know this means war. DIE!'.

Better to have no diplo to having useless diplo.

von Schmidt

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by von_Schmidt:
The units are colourful, very well-drawn and despite the much lower resolution you get a better idea of what is going on (e.g. a paralysed unit turns grey. In Dom2 you have to guess why it is not moving).

Paralyzed units turn gray in Dom2, also. Guess you haven't seen terribly many paralyzed units!

And Dominions II beats out MoM in one important aspect: People can be ON FIRE! That was totally awesome! How many games do you actually see people running around and fleeing the battlefield while ON FIRE?!?