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Old March 11th, 2004, 04:27 AM

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Default Re: Super-Casting Pretenders?

The first game of Dominions 2 I actually won was with just such a pretender.

Abysia, Moloch with Fire 10. Desert Eye. I threw him into the Deathmatch Arena and he won the Trident, allowing him to cast two spells per turn. Even before I got "Falling Fires," the guy could massacre 100+ unit armies by himself. By the end of the game he had over 600 personal kills. Good times.

Of course, I wasn't playing with Atlantis or R'ylegh, but that was intentinoal, since this was only my second game ever I tried to set it up to be as easy as I could.
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Old March 11th, 2004, 05:28 AM
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Default Re: Super-Casting Pretenders?

Try a Lord of the Desert Sun sometime if you want a fire caster with some accuracy. Eagle eyes does the job...
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Old March 11th, 2004, 06:24 AM

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Default Re: Super-Casting Pretenders?

The primary drawback I find with "caster" pretenders is that their use is far more limited than straightforward SCs: An SC can kick *** for a good 50 rounds of combat. A caster can only cast 5 spells. Assuming that a few of them are devoted to buffs designed to keep him from becoming a road waffle, that leaves very little to actually bLasting the crap out of people. While the spellcasting unit AI is certainly better than any other game of this type, it's most decidedly NOT geared towards solo-unit commando operations, and thus cannot be counted on not to do anything completely inappropriate in this case.
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Old March 11th, 2004, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: Super-Casting Pretenders?

Well, I just tried out a "super caster" phoenix pretender (F9A9), and he seemed quite decent. provided some artillery support in the early expansion, then retired back to base in order to get research under way (playing c'tis w/ drain 3).

then, after research gets kicked into high gear, he re-emerged as a kick-*** dominion defender - any incursion, and he could respond w/ extreme prejudice - sulpher cloud, fire cloud, orb lightning, etc...

Plus, by then w/ an eye of aiming he had a 30 precision

And the serpent dancers worked reasonably well w/ the blessings, though really the 75% lightning resistence is more of a multiplayer sort of thing.
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Default Re: Super-Casting Pretenders?

A 4-6 fire&air phoenix is fun to use with standard marignon since they start with the holy pyre spell which is fairly effective against most indies.
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Default Re: Super-Casting Pretenders?

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Try a Lord of the Desert Sun sometime if you want a fire caster with some accuracy. Eagle eyes does the job...
When I was testing this bad boy I used 9F and 2N for him in a game with 9 indies. In first 10 turns he had more then 300 kills. After 15 turns it went up to 500.
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Old March 11th, 2004, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: Super-Casting Pretenders?

A Golden Naga is viable for Ulm. With the 120 extra points from drain +3. I can have 200 points for scale even with a Golden Naga of 6 Fire, 2 Water (for Quickness), 2 Nature and 2 Death.

The only trouble I have is "Fire Cloud". The caster casts it too often and damages my own advancing troop.

[ March 11, 2004, 16:02: Message edited by: ywl ]
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