What type of Map do you want (ONLY THOSE WITHIN THE POLL) Most.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Zen:
Romance of the 3 Kingdoms was an old school game series of TBS. I don't know if any of the new school war dogs who had a Nintendo as a kid remember it, but I do quite fondly.

They recently came out with Version 9.0 of that, I hear.

Originally posted by Wauthan:
I'm not sure what you mean by Romance of the Three Kingdoms China. I assume it's a somekind of wellknown historical scenario?

It's a fairly well known historical period, occurring around 150-180 AD in China. There's a TBS wargame series based around it, as Zen mentioned.

[ March 11, 2004, 23:17: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Maximillian]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
It's a fairly well known historical period, occurring around 150-180 AD in China. There's a TBS wargame series based around it, as Zen mentioned.

It's a historical period, and also the name of a classic novelization of the same period, which most males grown up in any Chinese-influenced culture know by heart.

It was a period where the Emperor's power was almost gone, and dozens of warlords with conflicting ideals waged endless wars against one another, making it one of the bloodiest eras in the history of China. The novelization of this era describes the vast strategic battles in detail, while also focusing on each of the hundreds of different characters who take part. It does a fascinating job of making most of them memorable, likable and identifiable, even in this modern world almost two thousand years since that era.

In the 1980's Koei, a developer well known for making solid strategy titles, made this historical period into a game which became an instant classic. As Norfleet mentiond, part IX of the series came out Last year, and the "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" series was and still is considered by most Asian wargamers as the best turn-based strategy game ever created.

Apparently, they didn't hear of Dominions yet

But seriously, it is an extremely deep and involving strategy game made especially so by the fact that you can play your favourite general of the period (whose personal achievements and history you know by heart) and either try to recreate history, or make a "what if?" scenario.

However, due to its deep historic roots and attempts at accurate protrayal, I don't believe the game will be as fun to anyone who's not intimately familiar with the historical novel of the same name.

[ March 12, 2004, 01:43: Message edited by: Maximillian ]

[Maximillian]

On a related note, Japan also had a similar bloody period where dozens of Warlords eached vyed for power, called the "Zenkoku" or "Warring States" era.

Koei (again) created another classic TBS wargame based on this historical era named "Nobunaga's Ambition", and this one's naturally even more popular than "Romance of Three Kingdoms" in Japan.

Currently in its 10th iteration, the "Nobunaga's Ambition" shares many similarities to "Romance of Three Kingdoms" and are in some ways better (possibly due to patriotic reasons, since Koei is a Japanese developer). However, due in large part to its subject nature, the game failed to gain much success outside of Japan, and is Banned outright in countries such as Korea and China.

I hate the Japanese for what they did in the second World War, but I have to admit that their "Warring States" era was a politically and strategically interesting period. In fact, many historical analysts agree that this period of long internal strife set the stage for a natural "survival of the fittest", and strengthened Japan for its subsequent campaigns of external conquest.

Actually it was from Nobununga's Ambition I was going to pull the province lines and economy information for the Japanese Map (if above 40+) I was going to use the political states if using the accurate.

Nobununga's Ambition was a great game as well, when I was a kid.

However, if I do do something similiar to Rot3K or Nobu. I'd probably eventually attatch a Mod with multiple Factions of Japanese units just for fun if I had any artistic talent

[SATANS PAWN]

How bout a bigger and longer KOK ?

Kingdom of Karan map, ver2. Larger with wrap around.

>>>THE HORNED KING<<<

[Gateway103]

Originally posted by Zen:
Romance of the 3 Kingdoms was an old school game series of TBS. I don't know if any of the new school war dogs who had a Nintendo as a kid remember it, but I do quite fondly.

If you want to become more familiar, try searching the web, I believe there is a newer Version on current platforms out there for today's kids.

Ah, Rot3K. In case you didn't know, KOEI is still producing games of this title. The latest installment is the Rot3K-9 (+expansion/powerpack) for PC, in Chinese & Japanese only I believe. The Last English port was Rot3K-3 I think... can't recall... Anyway, just some trivia for ya. The next one will (Japanese & Chinese again most likely) likely be out in a year or 3, give KOEI's recent record with Kot3k-7 ~ 9.

-Gateway103

[ March 12, 2004, 06:49: Message edited by: Gateway103 ]

[tinkthank]

Mind me asking how many provinces on the China map before I vote? And would I be correct in assuming that there wouldnt be a lot of water? (Or do the swampy pools around Shangai count as water provinces or be "swamps"?)