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March 13th, 2004, 06:50 AM
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Re: Champion\'s Trident
I believe that the Trident does, indeed, grant quickness. Something to offset its otherwise lack of appeal combined with cursed status, I suppose.
Other weapons, such as the Sword of Swiftness, do not: I'd know, the SoS is one of the standard items I often use.
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March 13th, 2004, 06:55 AM
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Re: Champion\'s Trident
Additional note: I do believe that the inherent quickness of the trident means the Tridenteer will actually attack *4* times per round: The Trident grants 2x attack, IIRC, in addition to Quickness.
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March 13th, 2004, 07:11 AM
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Re: Champion\'s Trident
Trident gives quickness and attacks 2*2x, so it is quite potent... though it is best on spellcasters, being 2-H.
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March 13th, 2004, 07:19 AM
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Re: Champion\'s Trident
Thanks, Norfleet & Cherry. I can only hope that one of the other AIs in my AAR permanently offs this undead b**** before I have to deal with her. Yeah, right, like that's likely given she's immortal, and AIs aren't exactly swift at handling such critters.
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March 13th, 2004, 07:37 AM
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Re: Champion\'s Trident
Fortunately for you, AIs aren't exactly adept at USING such critters, either.
I, on the other hand, use them ruthlessly.
Last game, Navrunner, after discovering that they simply would not DIE, finally threw in the towel after more of them started appearing.
Yeah, they're real nasty. That's why I like 'em. 
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March 13th, 2004, 09:35 AM
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Re: Champion\'s Trident
OK, this is not the first time I've seen you talk about your VQs, but I don;t know what they look like.
What kind of gear/orders do you give them?
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March 13th, 2004, 10:11 AM
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Re: Champion\'s Trident
Now that's a happy poster.
Since you seem to have experience with using immortal units I wondered if you know how to make them stay alive? I thought vampires look way too good on paper but when I actually used them they didn't seem very immortal at all. In fact I never got even one of them back when it died even when I lost it in a positive dominion. 
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