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				 Re: Anyone who think they can win against this army? 
 
	Orrrrr how about 200 manikins? Global Enchantment: Haunted Forest, get 10 shamans, script "Swarm" each with one gem. The devils attack the swarm, the swarm turns into manikins. LOL!! 30 Mandragora are easily killed by 5 supercombatants, but 200 dragonfly-transformers are not.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Zen: How about 30 Mandragoras?
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 Edit: Holy crap, that just gave me an idea for assassinations!!!! Script assassin: Swarm. The commander/body guard attacks the swarm, the swarm turns into manikins. ALMOST impossible to beat, unless the assassin is killed by a high-precision spell first combat round.
 
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	Unless, of course, the object of your assassination is misunfortunately outside of your dominion.....as is often the case.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Argitoth: Edit: Holy crap, that just gave me an idea for assassinations!!!! Script assassin: Swarm. The commander/body guard attacks the swarm, the swarm turns into manikins. ALMOST impossible to beat, unless the assassin is killed by a high-precision spell first combat round.
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				March 17th, 2004, 03:29 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Anyone who think they can win against this army? 
 Well, one time in a 1v1 game, I setup my assassins so that each turn, the army comming toward me would be assassinated. It worked really well except for the fact that each assassin died. BUT NOT THIS TIME! |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Anyone who think they can win against this army? 
 I would not be entirely displeased if the "insect to manikin" exploit vanished, as it strikes me as a bit bizarre.
 Say, the manikin goodness only happens if size 2-4 (turning larger things into Carrion Beasts as available) or something like that.
 
 Regarding Winged Helm -- curiously, the bit about it enabling flying commanders to fly during storms vanished during the upgrade Dom1 to Dom2, if memory serves.
 
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				 Re: Anyone who think they can win against this army? 
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				 Re: Anyone who think they can win against this army? 
 A single air 5 Vanadrott with blood vengeance, wrathful skies and 5 storm demons?  That's not very hard to beat.  
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 1 Storm General
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 1 Seraph: Thunder Ward
 3 Mammoths.
 11 Wingless.
 
 The storm guard will tie up the demons and the Vanadrott in the first tuen, then the Mammoths will show up and wipe them out if they aren't already dead.
 
 With anyone else, thunder ward works wonders and only requires an air one mage to use 2 gems to cast.
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				 Re: Anyone who think they can win against this army? 
 One Harvest of Sorrow alone won't work. 
 It's unfair to disallow units like clockwork horror, spring hawk. They require even less powerful magic than "Wrathful Sky".
 
 For example, your army would be easily beaten by two to three Maste Smith with the "Lightning Rod" `guarded by 10 to 20 "Clockwork Horror". All doable even by the magically inversatile Ulm.
 
 Another approach: a Golem with a "Snake Poison Bladder", "Axe of Sharpness", a decent armor & "Ring of Tame Lightning". It will work if the Golem is scripted to "Body Ethereal", "Luck" and attack rearmost.
 
 Or a Bane Lord equipped similarly with "Snake Poison Bladder", "Axe of Sharpness", a "Ring of Regeneration" and a "Ring of Tame Lightning".
 
 As long as you have items like "Ring of Tamed Lightning", your army is not hard to beat. The "Storm" + "Wrathful Sky" is a powerful combo but it's so well-known that most players are aware and prepared for it.
 
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