Problem with berserk/turn 50 combat resolution...

[HotNifeThruButr]

About the spirits,can't you use Vaettir or indies to distract them?

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by HotNifeThruButr:
About the spirits,can't you use Vaettir or indies to distract them?

No, that generally doesn't help the problem. The Vaettir/indies will simply die/become paralyzed/clog the entrance, which won't help.

Plus they'll likely die before you can become berserked, causing an auto-rout.

[ April 12, 2004, 22:33: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[Taqwus]

I wouldn't mind if the rule were changed to something like auto-rout / auto-kill only once a certain number of turns have elapsed without the death (not counting death if rebirthed due to Phoenix Pyre, but deaths leading to resurrection by item do count as none of those are potentially infinite) of a unit that was on the battlefield at the start, or the expenditure of a gem (either of these being basically permanent). That way, as long as permanent damage is being done, the battle continues.

(For a really epic feel, lower the light level gradually and reduce stats accordingly, then raise it again if it Lasts long enough. )

[HotNifeThruButr]

Or, you could get more missile units like cheap Woodsman Bowmen to kill the spirits since your melee are too paralyzed and clogged to do it.

[Chris Byler]

This and similar experiences show that 50 turns is not enough.

Illwinter, please raise the turn limits to auto-rout at turn 75, battle ends at turn 100. This and many other battles with this problem would have reached a genuine resolution by then.

Allowing attackers left on the field at the expiration of the time limit to auto-flee instead of dying would help too, but if the time limit is raised to where it is hardly ever triggered it shouldn't matter.

Time limit battles aren't nearly as uncommon as they should be.

[love crime]

Well, my problem was not really figuring out how to kill dispossessed spirits in a siege... that was just the unfortunate circumstance of the story which led to my real displeasure... namely that almost my entire army was killed not by spell, sword, or even cowardly flight into enemy territories, but by a strange and injust game mechanism.

I also agree too many sieges are resolved by the 50 turn limit as the previous poster said... but my main problem is with the way berserkers are just killed at the limit, regardless of what that limit may be.

Just as a related aside, anyone else ever deal with the frustration of routing troops caught in the gates of a castle, unable to retreat (because of unrouted troops trying to attack behind them), unwilling to fight, and generally acting as a wall dragging the combat to turn 50 (assuming they happen to be large/hard for the enemy to kill)... makes one wish the combat ai would allow friendly routers to pass by... or at least fight back when cornered.