Vampire Queen mod

Wendigo · #1 April 19th, 2004, 07:18 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Death mages could, astral mages definetly couldn't. In positive dominion, with both a skullcap and an AMA she will have a MR in the 30's.

MR of 30 or not, 30x Solar rays with damage boosted by Light of the N Star will take care of her.

Huzurdaddi · #2 April 19th, 2004, 07:20 PM

Honestly I think the whole problem with her is the life draining attack. But I guess changing that would be pretty much out of character.

So I guess just bumping up her cost to 125 or so, and increasing her magic path costs to 50 or so should help the problem.

But really the problem is the life drain attack. Make it armor piercing, heck make it add +10 damage or something wacky like that to "rebalance it." You can even reduce her cost. But if you remove the life drain I can guarantee that she will be much more "balanced."

Wendigo · #3 April 19th, 2004, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Kel:

Your victory forces her to re-spawn. As I see it, that's just an extra ability, a free "Returning"

She will have to heal afflictions & re-forge all her gear again, which particularly in the case of dead Ermor is quite of a problem because of the narrowness of the national mages.

Norfleet · #4 April 19th, 2004, 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
But really the problem is the life drain attack. Make it armor piercing, heck make it add +10 damage or something wacky like that to "rebalance it."

Uh....you want to make life drain BETTER? It already *IS* armor piercing, but currently adds 0 damage. You want to make it add +10 damage now? How's that balanced?

Kel · #5 April 19th, 2004, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
But really the problem is the life drain attack. Make it armor piercing, heck make it add +10 damage or something wacky like that to "rebalance it."

Uh....you want to make life drain BETTER? It already *IS* armor piercing, but currently adds 0 damage. You want to make it add +10 damage now? How's that balanced?

I think he meant give it +10 (or something) *instead* of life draining...

Correct me if I am wrong.

- Kel

Huzurdaddi · #6 April 19th, 2004, 08:44 PM

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I think he meant give it +10 (or something) *instead* of life draining...

Yup that's what I meant. The life drain portion of the attack is what really makes the VQ go in the early game. Get rid of that, and "balance" it back with almost ANYTHING ( like a +10 AP attack, whatever! ) and she will not be an expanion machine.

She will probably still be pretty decenet with tons of high powered items, but that's ok. Almost all pretenders are pretty good with tons of high powered items. Maybe not as good as her, but heck she does cost 110 points.

Endoperez · #7 April 19th, 2004, 09:20 PM

What makes vampires ethereal in the first place?

If it is a cloak (someone mentioned something about vampires and cloaks, thanks for him!), giving the Queen body armor would take the etherealness away. Make any weapon take away her life-draining attack, and take away one of her miscellanous item slots. She can't drain the blood if she whacks her enemies down with a sword, and surely some of those abilities come from magical amulets...