Treaty question

[Will]

Hmmm... It was a while ago, I might have been mistaken. Oh well, AIs wouldn't accept either treaty unless you are a lot bigger, and humans would have to be pretty dumb to accept

[HiveLordJim]

WHAT!
Will,
What is so dumb about accepting a protectorate or subjugation?
Is it better the player have his empire destroyed than be subjugated? that doesn't make sense.
Why not have a larger empire protect you - if you think they will hold up their end of the bargain.

BTW
Protectorate should NOT be considerd a lesser level of subjugation.

[Q]

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Are you sure about this? If you have a lower over-all score but much more military strength you cannot force someone into a treaty as the 'tribute' payer? Have you tried blockading some planets and issuing a DEMAND for a treaty of subjugation?The 'Propose treaty of subjugation' option might mean that you want to be subjugated because you are proposing the treaty. I've only used this treaty a few times, though.

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How can you demand a teaty?? It's not listed under the options for demands. And if you just use a demanding tone it probably won't change much. I propose the treaty rarely, but just recently when I used it the AI refused. The next turn I demanded surrender and he accepted!

[Baron Munchausen]

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Originally posted by Q:
How can you demand a teaty?? It's not listed under the options for demands. And if you just use a demanding tone it probably won't change much. I propose the treaty rarely, but just recently when I used it the AI refused. The next turn I demanded surrender and he accepted!

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Use the Demand/Request Warn menu, and choose "Want a tribute". It's a bit odd to think of a treaty as "tribute" but treaties are available as demands under that option.

[Q]

Baron thank you very much. I would never had this idea to ask a treaty as a tribute by myself! Very clever.