Advis again F9W9 for ctis

[Huzurdaddi]

Actually you can get it fairly easy with the Son of Niefel. Go Drain 3 (no big deal if your not planning on magic since it is very difficult research)

Hmmm just tried it with Vanheim and I was able to get F9W9, well, well, well. Of course I took drain 3 like you are saying.

Now all I need to do is get some chumps ... I mean people to play a game with very hard research and I am set!

HoHoHo F9W9. That's going to make for some funny troops.

Perhaps I should try to get the map to be small too, that should make it painless at least.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
Disorder 1, Sloth 1, Cold 3, Misfortune 1, Drain 3, dominion 6, Fortress.

Yoikes. That's a pretty high price to pay.

That almost seems like suicide: Turmoil AND Misfortune? I would have traded down to Sloth-3 for Order-1, maybe another tilt of Misfortune for Order-2, and maybe a hit of death for Order-3. Turmoil and Misfortune don't mix.

[Jondifool]

interesting question!

how C'tis is to stand up against the blessed woodsmen with W9F9 in a low research setting ?

I don't know the answer at all (still newbie), but I couldn't resist thinking of what I would try.

if expecting a woodsman F9W9 i could be tempted for the heck of it to ****er with a molock W9F9 (and terrible scales) but serpent dancers with base defense 16 should now be able to standup to the woodsmans beating for a while and doing some damage in return. but they are (as i remember) capital only.

Good scales and maybe starting with severe patrools could give an gp advantage on more than 50%, adding up to have more than 5 troops for each woodsman. (until jotun outgrows c'tis). But how to damage them as ther water blessing makes them hard to hit.

A combination with a water 9 pretender and scales for the rest. For fodder and serpent dancers, might be a solution.

With the setup for c'tis D9N4 that is asked for here i can not really comes around anything. Except trying to gamble with battle setups. And offcause take the heat to the opponent , but without a stealthy priest thats not working.

with machaka i would have tried the nation spell starting spell blind. Would terror work ? If time and space for a few lost battles Could it work to curse them ? (should be in research range)

[Yossar]

How many woodsmen are you facing? With their mediocre defense and protection, wouldn't a bunch of crappy units (skeletons maybe) be able to take them or with shaman curses at least turn them into giant walking afflictions?

[ April 27, 2004, 10:15: Message edited by: Yossar ]

[Firebreath]

Poison slingers and skeletal hordes
A few undead behemoths on the flanks should work nicely too.

[Jondifool]

Originally posted by Yossar:
How many woodsmen are you facing? With their mediocre defense and protection, wouldn't a bunch of crappy units (skeletons maybe) be able to take them or with shaman curses at least turn them into giant walking afflictions?

Water blessed woodsmen with a defense rating of 14 i would not call mediocre. Actual most c'tis units would have a hard time hitting a woodsman.

[Anglachel]

True, they would be harder to hit but doesn't missle fire circumvent defense? If they have poor protection then they would be vunerable to fire and flee tactics or a horde of unbreakable troops(undead) could swarm them till their fatigue is so high that a 14 defense won't do much for them.