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Old April 29th, 2004, 12:39 AM
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Does the temple check spread have a cascade effect? (ie: if the temple check succeeds, but surrounding provinces are already at max, will it try to spread to provinces further away?)
I'm almost certain that it does cascade, as I've had dominion drop 10 points in a particular province in a single turn.
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Does the temple check spread have a cascade effect? (ie: if the temple check succeeds, but surrounding provinces are already at max, will it try to spread to provinces further away?)
I'm almost certain that it does cascade, as I've had dominion drop 10 points in a particular province in a single turn.
It doesn't even have to be at max dominion to spread farther. At the start of the game on a large map you can easily get small amounts of dominion two or more provinces away even when the surrounding provinces aren't anywhere close to max.
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Default Re: How do other pretenders override my Dominion?

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I'm almost certain that it does cascade, as I've had dominion drop 10 points in a particular province in a single turn.
This sounds like a bug to me. Dominion of 10 should be relatively difficult to penetrate, and the cascading should theoretically not be perfectly efficient.

Given what we know about dominion spreading, this seems highly improbable under legitimate game mechanics. As it should be. If this is possible using the actual algorithm, that algorithm needs to be looked at very carefully to avoid abuse.

I have heard MP stories of dom going from 5 to 0 in the cap, on turn 6, with no obvious stimulus. Needless to say the person was dissapponted with their inexplicably quick exit.

Have others experienced sponteneous zeroing of dominion (a la the scale bug?) ?

Rabe the Sacerdotally Suspicious.
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Old April 29th, 2004, 07:05 PM
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This sounds like a bug to me. Dominion of 10 should be relatively difficult to penetrate, and the cascading should theoretically not be perfectly efficient.
It went from dominion 1 to dominion -9 in one turn in a province with a dominion 7 strength templer and 2 or 3 preaching seraphines.

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If this is possible using the actual algorithm, that algorithm needs to be looked at very carefully to avoid abuse.
This was versus a huge number of Ermorian temples.

I've also seen the effect on a much larger scale when the opposing dominion was a dominion strength 10 Mictlan with many, many sacrifices going on every turn.
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Default Re: How do other pretenders override my Dominion?

I would also like to know how the cascading effect works.

In solo games, I typically will have temples in every single province, and, as a result, all my "internal" provinces have a +10 dominion.

When controlling most of the map, this should result in a huge amount of "dominion pressure" if the cascading effect was perfect and long-range (that is, if a temple check resulted in a 1-point dominion increase that moved around until it found some place to take effect).
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