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[PrinzMegaherz]

The problem with poke in the eye is, after you have played it and laught about it, you wont play it again. In addition, I could imagine many of the more serious gamers here find the Idea of map with so many random attributes much to confusing/against their play still to even download it

[ May 06, 2004, 19:32: Message edited by: PrinzMegaherz ]

[Tricon]

I'm a "slow" and easily distracted gamer (->wife, job, other hobbys etc.). I have the game now for ...4 months and haven't even come around to play every nation.

Between the beautiful new maps that are being made by fans, some really interesting and time consuming mods, and your fine (albeit "raw")maps, there is just not enough time to use everything to the extend I wish I could.
But be asured that I really like the random maps, ESPECIALLY the epic ones. (Though I have to admit I haven't finished a game on epic yet.)
I haven't tried poke in the eye.... yet.

[Sigh. I just don't have enough time to do everything I want to.]

[Psitticine]

Poke in the Eye has been around a bit longer too. Maybe the lower hits are an indication of that more than overall interest? People already have it, etc.?

[Blitz]

Im kindof surprised no one has created a "good" one (manual, artistic) yet.

When I want to test stuff I usally use Clash of the Titans. Pretty small.

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by Psitticine:
Poke in the Eye has been around a bit longer too. Maybe the lower hits are an indication of that more than overall interest? People already have it, etc.?

Ooh but its no fun to play over and over. The .map part of it is re-randomized every day at the site. Its a fast download. I would hope they would pick up a fresh one once in awhile.

Im to the point now that I could actually write a tiny program they could download and re-randomize it on their machine but I was trying to get an idea of where the interests were.

[PvK]

I've got a Poke In The Eye game going. It has been very fun and interesting, though there are some silly things, but that's ok. I got stuck in a very long Man vs. Soul Gate war of attrition. I have two independent castles which I have not been able to spare the forces to capture, so they just contribute half taxes while their forts remain full of scary random units. Some invading AI armies have also come and tried to siege them, but failed. That's actually rather amusing. Also amusing is I started with a cadre of undead units that Man usually wouldn't have. Some vampires which only my Pretender (druid) is capable of leading around, and some mummies which I got to learn the hard way would disease my own troops in battle (so I had some commanders with regeration items waiting around for me to research Gift of Health, which is always amusing in an SP game ). I think it adds some spice, and not too much nonsense. The starting magic items were amusing too.

Room for improvement would be if you can limit it so that random forts don't appear in the wrong type for their terrain (land forts underwater), and it might be a good idea not to overwrite the nation's capital fort, though I guess that might be ok. My Man started out with something that looks and acts like an Emorian citadel, but has no name.

In general though, I'd recommend giving Poke a try. It's interesting and provides some unusual combinations and circumstances, and some tough independents.

I too didn't realize that more random Versions were available all the time.

A variant of Poke where the changes weren't entirely random, could be good, too. Something with random placement and specifics, but with more controlled and perhaps thematic units and items instead of pure random. "Dragon Sprinkle", for example. Or how about "After the Vampire Wars" (All the provinces start out with bunches of extra priests, friars, Just Man's Crosses, Herald Lances, enchanted swords, Flambeaux, Angels, lifeless constructs... remainders of a need for everyone do develop anti-vampire equipment. Of course, it would have the amusing side-effect of discouraging people from taking undead nations and pretenders... might be popular amongst MP folks wanting to avoid having to deal with VQ's. ).

PvK

[ May 07, 2004, 20:25: Message edited by: PvK ]

[Gandalf Parker]

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THANKS for the great comments.

Originally posted by PvK:
Room for improvement would be if you can limit it so that random forts don't appear in the wrong type for their terrain (land forts underwater), and it might be a good idea not to overwrite the nation's capital fort, though I guess that might be ok.

Im getting capable of that now. I had to relearn "bit math" to translate that terrain command. I guess I could do it now since castles would be a fairly small table. I was thinking mostly of the units. You might not have seen it but in the first round of the game (did it seem to think a really long time) many units drowned. Water units on land, and land units in water. But then thats also why some of the provinces seemed to have no special troops, maybe thats a "feature" instead of a bug.

My Man started out with something that looks and acts like an Emorian citadel, but has no name.

Is that an old download? I thought I fixed that. It was much worse. I had started some games where I didnt even own my starting province. I would be under seige right away, or sometimes I was the seiger of someone elses castle. That was a strange game, starting right away with someone elses gem income instea of mine.

A variant of Poke where the changes weren't entirely random, could be good, too. Something with random placement and specifics, but with more controlled and perhaps thematic units and items instead of pure random.

I had a concept for a Semi-Random game but no one showed an interest in helping.
http://www.dom2minions.com/SemiRandom.shtml

"Dragon Sprinkle", for example. Or how about "After the Vampire Wars" (All the provinces start out with bunches of extra priests, friars, Just Man's Crosses, Herald Lances, enchanted swords, Flambeaux, Angels, lifeless constructs... remainders of a need for everyone do develop anti-vampire equipment.

Sounds like Leif's random generator would be good for that. He has one that uses theme files to set alot of variables.

[ May 07, 2004, 20:44: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]