This game is an expensive coaster

Kagetora · #1 May 25th, 2001, 07:02 PM

Unless your turns are really short, integrated TCP/IP support will not speed up your game significantly over the other options out there.<<<<

Well frankly I put this game on the back burner only checking in here periodically for the new patches and awaiting the TCP/IP to be included. I never realized it might actually take this long or perhaps I might have entertained some alternatives before now. However, I didn't and I don't know anything about those you mentioned.

Kagetora · #2 May 25th, 2001, 07:07 PM

Everyone has the right to their opinion. Complaints about the ai or requests for tcp/ip are valid points. Calling Aaron and Richard criminals (before you say he didn't call Aaron a criminal, look up the definition of "fraud") or unethical for not doing things on his schedule are not the kind of things reasonable people do.<<<<<

Well, look I understand the difficulty in doing creative type things like this. However, you can't advertise you are selling something and then not deliver what you advertised and people paid their money to get. I don't care if is deliberate on their part or not they still have an obligation to provide the product they said they would. I have a hard time believing that if Aaron had really wanted to he could have finished this game in more than 8 entire months. Entire games have been started from scratch and finished in less time. Problem is he has the money already so he has little incentive now to finish this game the way he said he would.

rdouglass · #3 May 25th, 2001, 07:26 PM

We'll I gotta' throw my hat into the ring again on this one...

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Originally posted by Kagetora:
... However, you can't advertise you are selling something and then not deliver what you advertised and people paid their money to get...

Was it ever really advertised? I only remeber it being mentioned as 'planned'. Post me a quote and I may feel otherwise.

quote:
Originally posted by Kagetora:
...I have a hard time believing that if Aaron had really wanted to he could have finished this game in more than 8 entire months. Entire games have been started from scratch and finished in less time...

I don't know of any of the major game publishers out there that'll do one in less than a year - even a new Version of an old game. I'm personally sorry you dislike the game so much. However, I'm really enjoying you scrambling around trying to justify (IMO) your unfounded statements and observations. Yes everyone is entitled to their own opinions, just like @$$holes...everyone has one....

Nitram Draw · #4 May 25th, 2001, 09:04 PM

I can understand, but no agree, with your complaints. This is not the first, and certainly not the Last game, that didn't meet everyones expectations, and possible some advertising, which I can't comment on. If you believe all advertising have I got a deal for you.....
As far as the AI is concerned, I agree that it can easily be beaten after a certain point regardless of the difficulity or if it is a stock race or a mod race. It is, after all, a program and once you figure the way to beat it you can repeatedly beat it if you play the same way. This is true of any computer game, regardless of the designers claims on how good their AI is.
I would suggest you try the some of the following and see if you don't feel a little different.
Try the TDM mod
Try playing as a Pirate or Nomad with SJ's Pirate mod.
Try playing the game a different way, don't follow the same research pattern, vary your style, build different ship, etc.
Play a hotseat game if possible.
Play a High Tech game in a small quadrent with 10 good starting planets, 20 races, and 100K starting resource points.
Give them time and the type of internet play you want may still happen.

[This message has been edited by Nitram Draw (edited 25 May 2001).]

Suicide Junkie · #5 May 25th, 2001, 09:05 PM

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However, I didn't and I don't know anything about those you mentioned.

Well, now you do... so have fun whomping those overseas friends of yours with your elite strategic skillz

Possum · #6 May 25th, 2001, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by Kagetora:
Of course those of you not so bright or strategically minded might consider it adequate but when my golden retriever beat it he said it sucked too.

Damned impressive dog you got there, dude. You selling any puppies?

Kagetora · #7 May 25th, 2001, 09:45 PM

Was it ever really advertised? I only remeber it being mentioned as 'planned'. Post me a quote and I may feel otherwise.<<<<

What's the difference? Read the malfador news where at both Thanksgiving and Christmas Aaron said he was working on the multiplayer for the next patch. That was 6 months ago. You can't just spout features you intend to put in to get everybody to buy the game based on those claims then not follow through. If somebody sold you a house and said they would fix the roof and you moved in in good faith and then they didn't fix the roof. Not only would that be unethical as hell but they would be in violation of a verbal contract and would get their asses sued off. That is exactly what happened here.