MP Game - Play The World: CANCELLED

[Tuskerlove]

So do I need to upgrade?

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Tuskerlove:
So do I need to upgrade?

No. We're not upgrading the server, so upgrading Dominions II would actually cause more problems. With the way the new patch has been received in the clan, this is not likely a move that will meet with approval: The opinions on the patch run from "Meh, where's my Skratti and Great Warlock?" to things which are far less positive and not fit for repetition here. The move was soundly voted down by 4 nays to 1 abstention. Patching does not look to be in the future of the server.

[Vynd]

What's with all this talk of "the clan?"

[Daynarr]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
No. We're not upgrading the server, so upgrading Dominions II would actually cause more problems. With the way the new patch has been received in the clan, this is not likely a move that will meet with approval: The opinions on the patch run from "Meh, where's my Skratti and Great Warlock?" to things which are far less positive and not fit for repetition here. The move was soundly voted down by 4 nays to 1 abstention. Patching does not look to be in the future of the server.

I must say that I find the reasons strange to put it mildly. Mosehansen has updated all his games and they work fine, no problems with pretenders or ongoing games. Patch does have lots of fixes to both network and balance issues and has no "problems" that come with it. Also, no one will report if the patch is ok or not to you so you will have to check the Boards to see if there are any problems with the patch. Finally, the game has barely started; even if there were problems with pretenders it wouldn’t take such a big effort to restart it in vanilla 2.12.

As far as your clan goes, I don't care about what they vote or say since they are not playing this game. It's your game and you set the rules, but I have right to choose to participate or not. Your clan or anyone else that doesn’t play has no business setting the rules or voting for anything concerning this game. I hope we understand each other.

[ June 10, 2004, 16:28: Message edited by: Daynarr ]

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Daynarr:
Mosehansen has updated all his games and they work fine, no problems with pretenders or ongoing games.

That remains to be seen. The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Patch does have lots of fixes to both network

This does not concern a Linux server.

and balance issues and has no "problems" that come with it.

And these changes run the risk of setting off Illwinter's new and apparently overzealous alarm system, which DOES appear to be a problem, given that somebody has reported it already.

Also, no one will report if the patch is ok or not to you so you will have to check the Boards to see if there are any problems with the patch.

I have. There are. This is not convincing me to shoehorn a switch.

Finally, the game has barely started; even if there were problems with pretenders it wouldn’t take such a big effort to restart it in vanilla 2.12.

Given the amount of hassle and trouble this game has already gone through to get started, I'd rather cancel it than run into more problems. Lately I've been becoming more unfond of the place anyway, as I've stated at the beginning of the thread.

It's your game and you set the rules, but I have right to choose to participate or not.

Am I to understand you are quitting, then?

Your clan or anyone else that doesn’t play has no business setting the rules or voting for anything concerning this game. I hope we understand each other.

The voting does not concern the game: It concerns the server: Since the clan games consist of more than half the server's active games, if the adoption of the patch is seen as so unpopular that it's voted down unanimously with the exception of my abstention, it's not going to be a popular move. It's also not actually my server, so unless somebody has directions for how to make two Versions coexist in Linux, the patch is a no-go.

[Esben Mose Hansen]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
[...] popular move. It's also not actually my server, so unless somebody has directions for how to make two Versions coexist in Linux, the patch is a no-go. [/QB]

That probably isn't that difficult. If nothing else you could run one Version chroot'ed. But if the game is halfway sensibly created, a separate installation directory shoud suffice -- and running the game from another directory, maybe even under another user.

[Daynarr]

Let me put it briefly and as simply as possible since I hate long quote/answer style which apparently lots of posters like to use and tends take parts of Posts out of context.
If the server is NOT going to be updated at all, the you should say so CLEARLY so that everyone participating in this game can choose whether they want to continue playing or not. No mush-mush about clans, voting etc. No one cares who owns the server, who updates it, votes for it or who plays most of the time on it.

BTW. The game hasn't moved from turn one and it's not possible, at the moment, to connect to server; so I'd say that you haven't gone through hassle to start this game since game hasn't really started yet (or to put it in other words, you still have a lot of hassle to go ). That is also a reason why I'm thinking of dropping out since this game simply can't seem to start.

Bottom line is that I don't really care that much about Version I play, but I have a problem with reason you gave.