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				 Re: Super maenad 
 
	The original Tien Chi hero was good old Mr. Master of the Iron Crutch himself, the disease-spreading hero that everyone loves to hate.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by HJ: Ah, so she's in fact a reincarnation of a Tien Chi heroine? I never saw her Tien Chi analogue, so I wouldn't know.
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 Iron Crutch is a great mage, but stories abound of "Augh! Iron Crutch diseased my pretender/best mage/other hero/etc".
 
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 I just experienced my own "reincarnation" moment: A commander named Bifrons, perhaps the same as the Ice Devil, got reincarnated....as a Vampire! He came apparently empowered, too, with S4/W3 as his magic paths, which is two astral empowerments above his base....AND he came with three items, a Starshine, a Crystal Coin, and a Water Bracelet.
 How cool is that? He came with bonus magic, bonus items, AND came on a chassis that doesn't suck!
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				May 30th, 2004, 11:01 AM
			
			
			
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	The combination of items sounds exactly like it would give the "empowered" combination (the base is S2/W2 IIRC). What you mean to say is that items were on top of that, i.e that he had S6/W4 with items?Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Norfleet: He came apparently empowered, too, with S4/W3 as his magic paths, which is two astral empowerments above his base....AND he came with three items, a Starshine, a Crystal Coin, and a Water Bracelet.
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				May 30th, 2004, 11:35 AM
			
			
			
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	That's right, Chief. Bifrons is normally W3/S2, BTW. The reincarnated vampire came with S6/W4, including his equipped items....meaning that he had been empowered twice in Astral as well. Pretty sweet.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by HJ: What you mean to say is that items were on top of that, i.e that he had S6/W4 with items?
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	That's right, Chief. Bifrons is normally W3/S2, BTW. The reincarnated vampire came with S6/W4, including his equipped items....meaning that he had been empowered twice in Astral as well. Pretty sweet.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Norfleet: 
 quote:Originally posted by HJ:
 What you mean to say is that items were on top of that, i.e that he had S6/W4 with items?
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 And why would anyone give an ice devil a water bracelet?
 
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 I had a situation like this arise that confused me. I was playing Ermor-Soul Gate and while looking through the heroes that had appeared in my provinces found this one: A long dead horseman (commander) with 4 air, 2 water, 4 astral, 3 nature and 5 holy. Other than those the stats were normal. |  
	
		
	
	
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	Maybe to cut down on spell-casting fatigue?Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Yossar: And why would anyone give an ice devil a water bracelet?
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 So on the happy occasions when someone gets one of these buggy units, do they go ahead and use them for all that they're worth, or what?
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