Vanheim Pretenders: Allfather and Asynya

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Originally posted by atul:

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Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
The virtue is pretty useless in a combat role, since she only has ~26 hitpoints. ...

Sorry to pick things out of context, but I've been wondering about this for a while now. I mean, while Virtue is indeed lacking in hitpoints and so on, I've found her good as an early game combat support.

The thing being, Awe +6. 0th circle spell Air Shield to protect her from missiles, a cheap armour in case a hit gets through, send her with your armies against indies like on turn 3. The opposition just stands there drooling at her while your troops close in for the kill. The secret of survival isn't high hp, prot or def, but the fact that no-one will hit her. Of course, provinces with high morale troops must be avoided, but as a such her aid in early expansion has been priceless.

I'm not arguing that the Virtue isn't quite useless, after all most high-morale units turn her into kebab, but I'd just like a second opinion on putting her in combat use: doable or just sheer madness? She has performed well in my tests but it may be just pure luck.

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You people and your "(almost/quite/utterly) useless)" really need to find another adjective! You just mean "risky" or "sub-optimal because there are things with other qualities that I prefer", or are wrong, more often than not.

26 hit points is too fragile for combat? Gee, Pons my Black Lord hero on top of the hall of fame would have something to say about that. So would the majority of my other heroic fighters.

Virtue can be quite tough if you give her equipment, buffs, whatever. Not "optimal", though. The reasons I haven't chosen a Virtue prentender tend to be thematic, and that her fighting skills aren't particularly good, and that you can summon Virtues later on that are comparable.

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