One of those moments

Ivan Pedroso · #1 June 18th, 2004, 10:49 AM

I have tested this Holy avenger / BoF combo with some odd results.

I played as Pythium, with the idea of recruting lots of theug comminicants and use them with 2 masters with appropriate random paths.

- one with a random path in nature and the battle orders: cast "communion master", "personal regeneration", "holy avenger", hold, hold, stay behind troops
(he is placed at the far back in a pack with all the communicants, who is set to hold, hold, hold, etc)

- one with a random path in water (so he would have WW) and the battle orders: hold, hold, "breath of winter", hold, hold
(placed in the same pack as the others - the first two holds are there to delay the BoF)

In front of this holy mob i placed a screen of fodder.

The reults: Precisely one(!) unaccounted smite pr. round not more, not less, even though the communicants clearly took damage (not from fattigue, so it must be from the BoF).

I would consider it kinda buggy if this scheme had produced the 10-15 smites pr round I was hoping fore, but exactly one smite pr. round is a little strange. It should be none or all.

HJ · #2 June 18th, 2004, 11:07 AM

Are you sure they all got Holy avenger as part of the communion? Maybe you were just getting the smite from damaging the master (the one who actually cast it)? I guess I should be testing it myself instead of giving advice, but if you place the master with holy avenger away from the pack and get no smites whatsoever, that would mean that the avenger is not shared through communion.

Ivan Pedroso · #3 June 18th, 2004, 11:32 AM

I tried moving the "holy avenger" guy out. And still only one smite.

I also tried removing the "personal regeneration" still only one.

I then figured that perhaps the "holy avenger" isn't transfered to the communicants, and i then tried with alot of level 4 priest. Still only one.

In all instances everyone in the pack with the BoF guy took some damage.

I think that getting one at all is a bug, but apparently a bug that can happen only once pr. combat round. But still it would've looked cool if it had worked.

Endoperez · #4 June 18th, 2004, 09:43 PM

Can Holy Avenger affect more than once per turn, at all? I haven't really been testing it or anything, and it is quite rare to have holy-4 mages get damaged...

Endoperez · #5 June 18th, 2004, 09:43 PM

Sorry, double post...

[ June 18, 2004, 20:55: Message edited by: Endoperez ]

PvK · #6 June 19th, 2004, 12:23 AM

I too thought the spell was triggered by the protected one DYING, not just getting hurt.

PvK

Ivan Pedroso · #7 June 19th, 2004, 05:46 AM

The description of Holy Avenger:
"Any harm done to the casting priest will result in a divine bolt striking in the midst of the enemy"

This suggests that the caster need not die, but only get damaged.

After looking carefully at the battle I can say the following:

- In rounds when someone died, a bolt struck.
- In rounds when no-one died but someone took damage, a bolt struck.
- In one round when two of them died, only one bolt struck.
- In every round a maximum of one bolt struck.

This suggests that any amount of damage taken (from friendly fire) with or without cassualties will produce a maximum of one bolt pr. combat round.

Perhaps the old Greek pretender Nemesis has a somewhat sub-par chassis in Dominions II

[ June 21, 2004, 15:15: Message edited by: Ivan Pedroso ]