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June 21st, 2004, 10:56 AM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
Unique is only the name 'Belphegor'. Not 'Lord of Hell'! So you can wish/GoR as many Lord of Hell as you want. Same count for all other uniques including djinns.
Wish is a very powerful spell!
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June 21st, 2004, 10:58 AM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
The more interesting question: Does the existence of a wished "Lord of Hell" prevent the manifestation of the Belphegor normally? If you wish for a "Lord of Hell", or whatever, will it now be impossible to summon him normally as well?
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June 21st, 2004, 11:17 AM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
If you wish for 'Lord of Hell' he got a random name after Gift of Reason. This name isn't 'Belphegor' so you can cast him regular.
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June 21st, 2004, 11:20 AM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
You can rename Belphegor, too. That's not really a definitive reason: The bigger question is: Does summoning a limited-edition summon check for the presence of their existence, and the means by which they appeared is irrelevant, or is it that casting the summoning spell sets a flag of some kind? If the former, then wishing for a Belphegor clone would block the creation of Belphegor by the the normal Bind Demon Lord spell, whereas if the latter, then what does the game use to determine which is the real Belphegor and whether to enable Belphegor again when he bites it....
[ June 21, 2004, 10:22: Message edited by: Norfleet ]
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June 21st, 2004, 12:34 PM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
I tried it out and i'm surprised... a wished 'hord of hell' prevents the casting of the normal one! Even if the name isn't Belphegor. You can wish hundreds lord of hell but with only 1 of this clones in play 'bind demon lord' doesn't bring Belphegor.
[ June 21, 2004, 11:35: Message edited by: calmon ]
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June 21st, 2004, 12:45 PM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
Wishing for another Belbhegor while one isalready in play should propably 'steal' the first one, like unique items are. But should he then come as normal unit, or as a commander with all things he had before? I can see arguments being made for both...
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June 22nd, 2004, 01:26 AM
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Re: Wishing for Demons
Well I believe this is a bug that needs to be reported.
Probably every unique summon can be wished for so on ... figure a game with tons of Air Queens or such things.
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