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May 30th, 2001, 06:30 PM
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Re: Straight vs. Diagonal
All SE4 really needs is a slight upgrade to the hull damage routine.
Currently, SE4 will choose the weakest armor piece most of the time, and the strongest internal piece most of the time.
Make it totally random, or add another attribute to components such as "SizeAsTarget := 10", to allow us to make specific components more or less likely to be damaged during a weapon hit.
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May 31st, 2001, 07:08 PM
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Re: Straight vs. Diagonal
The biggest problem in coding a hexgrid that I remember was defining a coordinate system and calculating whether two hexes are adjacent. On a square grid, that's trivial: you know that square (x,y) touches square (x+1,y). On a hex grid, hex (x+1, y) still touches hex (x,y), but so does either hex (x+1,y+1) or hex (x+1,y-1), depending on whether x is odd or even. Calculating the range between two hexes is even worse.
We did this for a college programming project course, and I remember that our group and one of the other Groups came up with totally different systems to resolve this.
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June 1st, 2001, 01:03 AM
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Re: Straight vs. Diagonal
quote: Originally posted by Taqwus:
Ah, for a CM-style WEGO turn order including simultaneous fine-grid movement, firing arcs, shield facing, 3D and inertia... 
(Just kidding, Aaron. We're NOT here to work you to death...)
We aren't???
I think a simple round-robin "impulse" system would solve most of the troubles with combat, though. Give each ship size and each weapon class an "initiative" rating. Break the turn up into many smaller segments. At the beginning of each turn you "program" what you want your ships to do. When you've given orders for the turn, the computer rotates through all available ships for each 'impulse' checking to see who is fast enough to do what at this point. No more of this "everyone fire on the lead ship before it can fire a shot" unless you really do have faster ships and weapons.
Well, that and a hex grid.
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June 1st, 2001, 01:50 AM
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Re: Straight vs. Diagonal
An initiative system would really be nice. Then there would be an incentive to build fast, hard to hit, small ships as well as the big boys!
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June 1st, 2001, 03:11 AM
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Re: Straight vs. Diagonal
Something I would like to see is weapon range zones displayed on the tactical grid. As I approach an opponent I'll often look at the ranges of his weapons and his movement range and try to position myself so that I stay just out of his reach. Then I'll dart in and get the first crucial shots off. It would be easier if I could display the range of his and my weapons on the screen.
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June 1st, 2001, 04:25 PM
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Re: Straight vs. Diagonal
Yeah, impulses plus initiative would help with certain bits of cheese. One could see not only ship size and weapon type involved, but perhaps also experience and, maybe, sensors.
Showing weapon power at a range... Hrm. It'd be nice, but as-is it's a nasty problem. Would it take into account the movement that the other guy could make before firing? Beam weapons may be easy enough, since one can compute their probability of hitting multiplied by damage at the particular range, but missiles and fighters are a different story. That carrier may look sweet and innocent with no non-PD weapons, but if it's chock-full of heavy fighters with quantum engines, afterburners, and rocket pods or lightning rays...
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June 1st, 2001, 05:12 PM
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Re: Straight vs. Diagonal
Have you played Ascendancy?
It didn't account for any inertia, but still I loved the 3D look of it.
To me, the biggest issue with 3D space is the number of frames per sprite, if you want to draw it in any rotation.
Still, I would really like to see 3D space in SEV.
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