help please with pretender SC's for early expansion

Boron · #1 July 4th, 2004, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Endoperez:

Sorry for posting this long a post, it just kept growing!

no need to apology and thnx it was great

i tried a w9/f9 blessing in a testspgame with vanheim the vans were impressive

problem was i chose the goldnaga and still achieving f9/w9 was damn hard

i got very lousy scales through this
another prob with vanheim they have only lvl 3 priests so i only get one lvl 4 through prophet for the whole battlefield affecting blessing .

Boron · #2 July 4th, 2004, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by CayseP:
The Moloch is very good at initial expansion also - just make sure you give have some extra troops standing in the back to prevent routing when the wimpy but _effective_ imps rout (in spite of their low morale they have fighting skills far surpassing those of e.g. militia). His ambidexterity, good attack/defence, hp, prot and cause fear combined with a low enc. makes him capable of shredding what he has not yet burninated!

Just wanted to mention this awesome pretender in this start game SC context :-)

guess i check him for abysia

there i have though expensive natural lvl 4 priests

and some additional points via heat 3 compared to vanheims cold 1

or perhaps i can make a vq with them with some lower blessings

Endoperez · #3 July 4th, 2004, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Boron:

quote:
Originally posted by Endoperez:

Sorry for posting this long a post, it just kept growing!

no need to apology and thnx it was great

i tried a w9/f9 blessing in a testspgame with vanheim the vans were impressive
problem was i chose the goldnaga and still achieving f9/w9 was damn hard
i got very lousy scales through this
another prob with vanheim they have only lvl 3 priests so i only get one lvl 4 through prophet for the whole battlefield affecting blessing .

I think the Last level make Moloch better choice than Golden Naga. There is a 60-point difference in the price of paths, but Moloch will get the Last path for cheaper (not sure about the strict amount) and is better early game fighter.

Boron · #4 July 4th, 2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by Endoperez:
I think the Last level make Moloch better choice than Golden Naga. There is a 60-point difference in the price of paths, but Moloch will get the Last path for cheaper (not sure about the strict amount) and is better early game fighter.

you are right

moloch saves 31 points + has a 2 higher dominion which are additional points

so i guess he is a very good choice for any F9 / something else 9 blessing .

possible concurrents are the divine glyph / the baphomet but both are immobile and not available for vanheim .

perhaps he is even the best choice for every F9 / something else 9 blessing since he is a acceptable sc too .

perhaps i should try mictlan with him since i can summon 1-2 FoD's then early which will prevent him from routing and so i can make full use of his flight ability when indep smashing

edit : if i play mictlan with a moloch = any non mictlan only pretender he still spreads dominion like he would do with any other nation right ?

if i control e.g. 50 provinces how many blood slaves do i have to sacrifice each turn in average in order to keep my dominion at a reasonable level ?

[ July 04, 2004, 21:40: Message edited by: Boron ]