a very small suggestion for the next patch for ryhleh ( devs plz read )

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
a product that was nearly bug-free out of the box.

It's precisely this sort of stupid statement that proves my point on you being a fanboy. The rather lengthy list of bugfixes in the 4 patches since release belies your ... buggy ... assertion. Dom 2 was *functional* out of the box (something that cannot be said of some games), but it was far from bug-free. To IW's credit, they've been diligent about quashing bugs, or at least those they are willing to acknowledge as bugs.

Which is otherwise known as being an ******* for the sake of being an *******.

Well, it's rather obvious that you are clueless as to the distinction between politeness and frankness. For the record, you've a lamentable lack of politeness. In short, you're a rude, obnoxious lout. Which is impolite of me to say.

Such a poll is nothing more than an appeal to popularity, if the respondents were actually separate individuals, and not the result of one person creating multiple accounts to sway the results, as has happened with other polls.

Do you truly believe anyone on this forum would go through that much effort (to create multiple accounts just to skew a poll)? There are modern drugs to treat such paranoia. I suggest you seek some.

Well, if you actually feel that you are entitled to have the game made exactly the way you want, then the flaming is probably well-deserved.

Flaming is never deserved. It's a Last resort for people who's brains have reached their limitations in ability to process information in a rational manner. Alas, there are no drugs to treat such an illness. The only effective treatment is plenty of bedrest. While such bedrest may not appreciably help the diseased one, it will certainly make the lives of those he's inflicting his ravings on much much more peaceful. Get some rest GD. Please. Soon.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Arryn:
It's precisely this sort of stupid statement that proves my point on you being a fanboy. The rather lengthy list of bugfixes in the 4 patches since release belies your ... buggy ... assertion.

Aside from the battle replay inconsistency, and a few things that could occasionally crash the hosting process, there were virtually no serious bugs on release, and still are almost none. Which is why I stated that it was virtually bug free.

Dom 2 was *functional* out of the box (something that cannot be said of some games), but it was far from bug-free. To IW's credit, they've been diligent about quashing bugs, or at least those they are willing to acknowledge as bugs.

Ahh yes, and of course, _you_ are qualified to determine what is and is not a bug. Why don't you tell us what major bugs are still lurking out there? After all, you've mentioned that some still exist in previous Posts, but haven't stated what they actually are.

Well, it's rather obvious that you are clueless as to the distinction between politeness and frankness. For the record, you've a lamentable lack of politeness. In short, you're a rude, obnoxious lout. Which is impolite of me to say.

I'm rude? Who's the one who started to tell the devs, once again, that they don't know what they are doing? You're the one who is perfectly willing to state that you know what is best for the game, and are always willing to derail any given thread to continue to whine about the topic.

Do you truly believe anyone on this forum would go through that much effort (to create multiple accounts just to skew a poll)? There are modern drugs to treat such paranoia. I suggest you seek some.

As I stated in my reply, that very thing has been done on this forum to at least one poll about the state of the AI.

Flaming is never deserved. It's a Last resort for people who's brains have reached their limitations in ability to process information in a rational manner.

Flaming is almost always deserved by people such as yourself. That would be people who use a false veneer of civility over top of inflammatory remarksin an attempt to slip under the radar of the administrators.

[ July 13, 2004, 03:56: Message edited by: Graeme Dice ]

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
Aside from the battle replay inconsistency, and a few things that could occasionally crash the hosting process, there were virtually no serious bugs on release, and still are almost none.

Why don't you tell us what major bugs are still lurking out there? After all, you've mentioned that some still exist in previous Posts, but haven't stated what they actually are.

I haven't used the term "major". You have. I simply stated that bugs still exist. Please do not twist (or worse, add) words. As for listing them, why don't you go to the sticky thread and read them for yourself. Or are you too busy ranting at me to be bothered to do so?

I'm rude? Who's the one who started to tell the devs, once again, that they don't know what they are doing? You're the one who is perfectly willing to state that you know what is best for the game, and are always willing to derail any given thread to continue to whine about the topic.

Yes, you *are* rude. And who annointed you Defender of Illwinter? As for derailing a thread, may I point out that I made one (small) comment in this regard (in passing) in this thread, and that it was YOU who have jumped in, repeatedly, to level personal attacks at me and keep this argument between us going? You even went out of your way to do so, disregarding an entire post to extract just one sentence, just so you could perpetuate your animosity towards me as evidenced in many Posts and threads over the past months. You'll also note that my other Posts, mainly to PvK, have been strictly a discussion on the original subject? Have YOU posted anything relevent (or even meaningful) on this thread's subject? No.

Flaming is almost always deserved by people such as yourself. That would be people who use a false veneer of civility over top of inflammatory remarksin an attempt to slip under the radar of the administrators.

Looked in the mirror lately regarding false veneers and inflammatory remarks? "Flaming is almost always deserved by people such as yourself." speaks for itself as the sort of posting that draws the attention of Moderators, along with your use of foul language in an earlier post.

If you have nothing useful to contribute to the subject of this thread, GD, then please shut up. Your "I hate Arryn" diatribe just clutters up the thread. And so as not to contribute further to such clutter, I'll not respond to any further postings from you.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Arryn:
I haven't used the term "major".

Not in this thread, no, you haven't, which is why I mentioned that it was a different thread.

Yes, you *are* rude.

And you are considerably more rude with your continual "Arryn Knows Best" attitude. What's the point of this remarkable revelation?

As for derailing a thread, may I point out that I made one (small) comment in this regard (in passing) in this thread, and that it was YOU who have jumped in, repeatedly, to level personal attacks at me and keep this argument between us going?

The comment was _not_ made in passing. It was the most central point of your entire post. That is the point that you, as a player, obviously know more than the devs about what needs to be done to the game.

You even went out of your way to do so, disregarding an entire post to extract just one sentence, just so you could perpetuate your animosity towards me as evidenced in many Posts and threads over the past months.

That personal animosity arises almost entirely from the poll you made several months ago, which you have yet to apologze for. Your continued attitude since then illustrates that my initial judgement of your character was correct.

Looked in the mirror lately regarding false veneers and inflammatory remarks? "Flaming is almost always deserved by people such as yourself."

What false veneer? I'm flaming you outright, instead of pretending to be civil and doing exactly the same thing.

speaks for itself as the sort of posting that draws the attention of Moderators, along with your use of foul language in an earlier post.

What foul language? The word *******? If that damages your "too-sensitive sensibilities", or "rubbed you the wrong way", then I'll just remind you that "I don't believe in tap-dancing around issues or sugar-coating replies for ease of consumption."

If you have nothing useful to contribute to the subject of this thread, GD, then please shut up.

I could have contributed something to this thread, except that it would be wasted on someone who is so utterly convinced that they are right.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Arryn:
Flaming is never deserved. It's a Last resort for people who's brains have reached their limitations in ability to process information in a rational manner. Alas, there are no drugs to treat such an illness.

This is actually false. Many drugs exist to treat this ailment, including cyanide, arsenic, and strychnine.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
This is actually false. Many drugs exist to treat this ailment, including cyanide, arsenic, and strychnine.

Good point. BTW, you left out ethylene glycol (antifreeze), which is far easier to obtain.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Arryn:
Good point. BTW, you left out ethylene glycol (antifreeze), which is far easier to obtain.

It wasn't meant to be a comprehensive list, merely a short list of examples of drugs which are known to treat the aforementioned ailment. The actual list numbers in the thousands, which just goes to show how easily this can be treated.