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July 13th, 2004, 10:06 PM
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Re: OberFuhrer, the Hobourg Special Hero!!!
What astonished me after traveling in Germany is the laws against any Nazi insignias (a good example is the flag) even if it is done in a teaching or historical presentation. Correct me if I am wrong but is it not illegal in Germany to have even the Nazi flag in a game? From working on a Hearts of Iron (Paradox)Mod I remember that the game did not come with a Nazi flag because of this law. Now I understand that it could be offensive towards some people. Hell I lost two Uncles in that damned war fighting Germany but is it not riskier to close our eyes to history. If we deny the truths of history and hide from it you know damned well that we will repeat it! In fact I think we are on the road already. Embrace histrory for its good and evil, look at it in the eye and learn or before long it will stab us in the back!
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July 13th, 2004, 10:10 PM
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Re: OberFuhrer, the Hobourg Special Hero!!!
I've read somewhere that the Swastika (sp?) used to be a symbol for protection. Now, it's a sign for racism and hate.
I'm sure many symbols' and words' meanings were changed throughout history because some bastard got his hands on 'em.
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July 13th, 2004, 10:42 PM
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Re: OberFuhrer, the Hobourg Special Hero!!!
This post was only to info the community about this hobourg!
Not a discussion about the terms used to call him nor I've anything against a word of the german vocabulary.
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July 13th, 2004, 10:43 PM
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Re: OberFuhrer, the Hobourg Special Hero!!!
Quote:
Originally posted by HotNifeThruButr:
I've read somewhere that the Swastika (sp?) used to be a symbol for protection. Now, it's a sign for racism and hate.
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Actually it isn't The nazy Symbol is just the inverse of the Swastika. Although it is just a theoritical point of view I would never drow a swatika because I fear most people wouldn't see the difference.
As for the discussion, every use of "Führer" in an modern context might be clear, it is use in many german tales and myth, because it wasen't mark, so from this point of view and remembering that dominions is a Myth/Fantasy Game it wouldn't be so choking to see a "Führer" here, as it would mean something completely different.
I think we should relativize the word and replace them in their context.
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July 13th, 2004, 10:47 PM
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Re: OberFuhrer, the Hobourg Special Hero!!!
Quote:
Originally posted by Cohen:
This post was only to info the community about this hobourg!
Not a discussion about the terms used to call him nor I've anything against a word of the german vocabulary.
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He has been in the game for quite some time, along with his sword. If people did not know of him I don't think it's suddenly going to make a difference that they do now. If only he would appear with Bogus type events and 3 other hoburg friends on a quest to Mordor as an event, would he start to take on a dynamic.
Edit: Added Hoburg friends.
[ July 13, 2004, 21:47: Message edited by: Zen ]
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July 13th, 2004, 11:05 PM
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Re: OberFuhrer, the Hobourg Special Hero!!!
Zen's got 10 dominion on me.
ZEN IS GOD!
[ July 13, 2004, 22:07: Message edited by: HotNifeThruButr ]
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July 13th, 2004, 11:07 PM
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Re: OberFuhrer, the Hobourg Special Hero!!!
Probably I've an older Item Ref because the Shortsword wasn't mentioned there, so I thought it was a very rare character and I met him ...
I hoped to do something useful with this post, not to start this discussion ...
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