Man litchcraft is such an awsome spell.....

Lach · #1 July 14th, 2004, 02:52 AM

I love this spell so much heh, I must have 10 demi liches running around, leading all my armies.... they are just so awsome heh, and immortal

Nagot Gick Fel · #2 July 14th, 2004, 10:24 AM

Beware of Wind Ride, tho'.

Boron · #3 July 14th, 2004, 02:58 PM

they are very nice

you should try blood Lach

there you get vampire counts they are immortal too but even a bit more useful than the demiliches . and they can summon 1 vampire / turn which is also immortal .

a main advantage of the demiliches is ihmo that they are death 4 so they can cast drain life without items/empowerment.
the vampire counts have death 3 blood 3 instead so they can't cast drain life without items but because they summon vampires you can mass quite big numbers of them and they are flying !

Endoperez · #4 July 14th, 2004, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by Boron:
the vampire counts have death 3 blood 3 instead so they can't cast drain life without items but because they summon vampires you can mass quite big numbers of them and they are flying !

To be more precise: Vampire counts can summon Vampires through Summon Allies -command or a command that acts the same way. Of course, if you have much blood slaves They can also cast the summoning spell and you get even more of them faster. I read how someone, I think Norfleet, commented on how powerful hundreds of Vampires can be in your own dominion...

Boron · #5 July 14th, 2004, 03:52 PM

yeah i didn't try it myself so far but i believe norfleet

even if you loose you can throw them on your enemies again and again . they will always loose some of their units and if you have high dominion normally the enemy needs some turns to turn it negative so you have several sure tries

@ norfleet a specific question : the basic weapon of the vampires / vc's is life drain . how does this work on golems and other lifeless beeings ?
do the vampires still damage but don't get back life or do they no damage and are almost useless against golems and so on ?

Taqwus · #6 July 14th, 2004, 04:12 PM

It's Vampire Lords who are Death-3, Blood-3 and can summon one vampire for an action every turn. Vampire Counts are Death-2, Blood-2, can't summon vampires except the ordinary way (casting the blood summoning spell), and automatically attract thralls as cannon fodder.

Lach · #7 July 14th, 2004, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Boron:
they are very nice
you should try blood Lach there you get vampire counts they are immortal too but even a bit more useful than the demiliches . and they can summon 1 vampire / turn which is also immortal .

a main advantage of the demiliches is ihmo that they are death 4 so they can cast drain life without items/empowerment.
the vampire counts have death 3 blood 3 instead so they can't cast drain life without items but because they summon vampires you can mass quite big numbers of them and they are flying !

I pump all of them to 6 death magic.... got well of misery so I can afford it(I cast it at double its gem cost.... that mean it unlikley to ever be dispeled?)

I like the summon 20 weights spells, its cheap, anything less then other pretenders or very powerfull priests cant turn them, you get ALOT of them and they are damn powerfull heh.

Taqwus · #8 July 14th, 2004, 08:22 PM

Legion of Wights _is_ strong (as it's a Conj-9 with a non-trivial death level requirement and gem cost, it should be), but as with many superheavy infantry units, beware of things like mass lightning attacks (e.g. Caelian fly-by with Wrathful Skies, or eventually Shimmering Fields, or the Pythium quickened orb-lightning communion abuse) as lightning ignores their otherwise very nice armor. Area fire attacks can also be bad, although wide-area fire tends to be more armor piercing instead of negating.