MP Game - Tweaked Itemz

[Boron]

the idea is nice but the problem is i think you can't forbid only parts .
if no wraith swords and hellswords are allowed then ppl will use soul vortex and / or get it via the armor which has lifesteal . you even allowed this . why ?!? it's kinda half-hearted .

allowing to only equip gold recruitable units is unfair too . what if someone takes jotun niefelheim ?!? the 500 gold niefel jarls will then be most likely the best SC's and jotun in general has a big advantage .

if you take the wizards tower is mad castling allowed then with this one ? i understand you in this way there .

finally the one who gets the icedevil with default hellsword has a huge advantage too.
with the limited pretenders you may take jotun with his national mage wise access to water + blood magic and very good national sc's under these rules will have a huge advantage i think.


alternative played dominion games are a nice idea and i think i would like to participate in a game with no sc's at all but the special rules you invented for this game are even further unbalancing it than balancing it .


i personally would be interested in such a game as an alternative too .
perhaps the rules should be :
-no unique summons
-no jotunheim
-no common combatpretenders like you listed above or you may not equip your combat pretenders and any immortal one is forbidden too .

[ July 16, 2004, 23:39: Message edited by: Boron ]

[Boron]

i have no expierience in modding but perhaps another approach would be :
make the wraith / hell swords unique artefacts .
so only one of each can be forged and there will be a race after them . same for the armor .

soul vortex should be removed from the spell list in that special mod then too .

and perhaps the 3-5 most used pretenders like the vq .

i don't know if everything of this is possible in a mod already but most is i think and for an expierienced modder it should take not too much time too .

[Cohen]

Removing unique summons will weaken too much some magic paths, leaving to death the best summons (banelords and wraithlords).
Blood will be totally screwed up ...

About soul vortex I agree ... the spell is fearful, but the items aren't ...since especially to get the body armor you drop your protection a lot and so you get bashed a lot.

Well, Wizard Tower costs 120 design points... Watch Tower 0 and Mausoleum 40. This is the difference.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Cohen:


Well, Wizard Tower costs 120 design points... Watch Tower 0 and Mausoleum 40. This is the difference.

so you may castle every province with a wizard tower but not with a watch tower ?

do you think my mod suggestion is possible ?
there you could summon all the uniques .
but since the lifedrain items would become unique items and soul vortex removed there would be a great struggle for the only 1 time existing 3 ways to get lifedrain.

from blood thorn it should be removed in the mod than that it still can be taken as a blood empowerment item but not to gain a 1 handed life steal weapon .

[Cohen]

Sadly it's impossible to mod magic items.

Wizard Tower costs you 120 design point, this is a like magic-3 scale, or a some magic levels.
This make difference!
However we could remove too the Wiz Tower ...

but we need to find more players interested in this experimental game.

[Boron]

i think we shouldn't hope for more than 5-6 players .
i think a ~150 provinces map would be just the right size for that .

[Catquiet]

If the rules are up for discussion, how about this

1. No magic items. If you find one on an independent you have to toss it.

2. No immortals, pretenders or summoned.

3. No Watch Tower or Mausoleum.

[ July 17, 2004, 03:18: Message edited by: Catquiet ]