MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)

[The Panther]

I will take T'ien Ch'i. Thanks for the invitation. I have played a lot of SP against hard CPs so I do know the basics.

[Pickles]

"Got a question: if someone takes a water race, and nobody else invests in equipment or spells or themes to go in the water, does that mean the water race is guaranteed to stay alive the entire game without being attacked?"

Yes if noone goes amphibious but its a big if as most nations can do it eventually. Water races have a distinct advantage of security in the early to mid game (& I have not played beyond this) but they have nasty indeps to deal with and awkward geography so seem reasonably balanced in my limited experience.

And Yes Aku I will stick with R'lyeh as noone
else seems to want to go aquatic.

Pickles

[Aku]

Well the map Karan says 20 water provinces and I think you connect to all of them but 1 or 2 so you can get at least 18 provinces without stepping on land which is really nice.

Oh and Pickles just in case you havent used ryleh before use the priests not the mages to go in the summoning circle in the capital because they have a small chance of getting feebleminded.

We just actually need a few more confirmations of what nations people are using. Lets just use these settings (pasting from post below).

Number of starting provinces: 1
Stength of Independents: 6
Special Site Frequency: 50
World Richness: Normal
Random Events: Common
Score Graphs: Disabled
Hall of Fame: 15
Standard Research
Standard Victory
Renaming is Allowed

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Map is Karan

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom2/karan.zip

Players:

Aku - Abysia
Klatu - Man
Boron - Pythium
Pickles - Ryleh
Drool - I think Ulm(let me know on this)
Starwarsluke - Caelum
Lukes brother - ?
Alexi - Vanheim?
PashaDawg - Machaka
Panther - T'ien C'hi

I just need confirmation from Drool. I need nations for Lukes brother(and his name) and PashaDawg. Also Alexi just want to make sure you like Vanheim before I take the ? off.

[ July 25, 2004, 02:56: Message edited by: Aku ]

[Pickles]

"Oh and Pickles just in case you havent used ryleh before use the priests not the mages to go in the summoning circle in the capital because they have a small chance of getting feebleminded."

Ha small chance my arse. I am playing R'lyeh in another game and I have so far spent 750 gold to get 100 gold worth of creatures.

Actually there is a small chance cos they usually get eaten by the summons before they go mad - though I have had both happen on the same turn.
It really is a stupid pointless and above all random task (not that this stops me)

On Karan you are connected to 18/19 of the wet provinces but they are still a long way from one another and in dead ends so it is hard to expand in an efficient manner.

Pickles

[Aku]

I tried Ryleh once in SP and the mages have random picks I was able to get it to make the chalice to cure the feeblemind so i was getting high summons skills on my guys. Anyway I don't care for water too much. They are interesting but just not for me. But I did really like that summoning circle thing because it was unique to Ryleh.

[The Panther]

I messed around with the void summoning thing quite a bit before I got the hang of it. Some things to consider:

1. Be DARN sure you put the right guy in there. Only one guy can go in safely, the starspawn priest (I think that is his name). NEVER EVER put your god in there, that is total disaster. Other mages (like your god) have something like a 50% chance to go stupid. This also means the void gate is useless to any race that wipes out R'lyeh sice they cannot recruit starspawn priests.

2. Go +3 luck to try and get good old Chithgul to join you early in the game. He almost never goes insane. Somewhere on this site, they say that Chithgul has only a 2% chance to go stupid each time he is successful or attacked. It is 5% per occurance (not per turn as uneventful turns do not count) for the regular priests.

3. Make sure you have five bodyguards early on for the summoner. Research up to the ritual of returning or some such nonsense like that. That way you are safe from most everything except a vastness or multiple GOs early on.

4. The void troops are the ONLY sacred troops that R'lyeh can get. That in itself makes it nearly imperative that you use the void gate.

The Last time I played R'lyeh against the comps, my very first starspawn priest made it to something like level 25 summoning skill on about turn 80 when the game ended without going insane. I got one vastness and a whole host of GOs. Although I got whipped bad when the ultra-powerful Ermor CPU invaded the water and utterly slaughtered me (hehe).

I did like R'lyeh as a race. In fact, if you want to swap with me Pickles, I will take R'lyeh. It does sound like this particular map ought to have a water race.

[ July 25, 2004, 01:16: Message edited by: The Panther ]

[PashaDawg]

Hi Guys:

Thanks for letting me join in. I will play Machaka. I am pretty new at the game, so any nation is as good as another for me, and the spiders are GROOVY!

Let me know when you are starting.