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[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
Nope. Nobody remains healthy their entire lives. That's why people die, you see? Living forever is incredibly boring, anyway.

Thanks for admitting that your statement that you save money with private healthcare was incorrect.

In *MY* day, if you couldn't afford something, you got a nice lesson in something we called "Learning To Do Without".

You're still alive, and I doubt that you are more than 20 years old given your demonstrated maturity level and amount of free time. The here and now is "*YOUR* day".

I've snipped the rest of your meandering bull**** where you demonstrate, once again, that you are barely a member of humanity thanks to your complete lack of empathy.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by NTJedi:
That's wrong... take a look at how much switzerland is paying for this government healthcare.

Why don't you take a look at Canada, where better health care than what is available in the U.S. (30th in the world vs. 38th), costs 57% as much per person.

Another bad reason for government healthcare is we would never be able to go back.

Why would you want to go back?

So what you're suggesting is why just stop at U.S citizens?? Lets provide a Universal HealthCare for all countries including illegal aliens within our own. We can't just let them rot either... right?

If they pay American taxes, or are U.S. citizens, then the American government should support them. Your strawman about other countries is meaningless, since they are not U.S. taxpayers or citizens.

]Lets see... there are millions without any healthcare which would be going to the hospitals if they could...

This is unarguably good.

whether or not its needed.

This is complete and utter bull****. Doctors are perfectly capable of not spending money on people that don't need treatment. People, even the poor who you seem to despise, despite claiming to be a member of the lower class, have ethics. People don't purposefully

Currently X amount of people are going to the hospitals everyday.
With a government healthcare it would be X amount of people going to the hospitals PLUS Y amount of people also going which couldn't afford this before. Less beds/rooms available... less medical supplies... because of Y amount of people also going.

I can't believe that you are seriously making an argument that it's a _good_ thing that people are going without medical treatment.

Example=
Will people start giving more blood with the new healthcare system to help provide the supplies needed for Y amount of people?? Take a guess!

I don't have to guess. The blood supply in Canada is completely voluntary, Canadian Blood Services is a government agency that is responsible for collecting blood, and guess what, we have adequate, though sometimes low blood supplies just like the U.S.

[PrinzMegaherz]

Even more importantly is John Kerry is going against his catholic religion which is a serious moral issue.
John Kerry is unapologetically pro-abortion... yet as a Catholic, he is required to be personally opposed to the idea.

What does religion have to do with being a good president? You don't need to be religious to have decent moral values (in fact, many "bad" people tend to have some religious background. Suizide bombers who claim its for their god, paedophilic priests...).

I am a catholic, so I am not allowed to have an oppinion other than that of the pope?

[Skolem]

Originally posted by PrinzMegaherz:
I am a catholic, so I am not allowed to have an oppinion other than that of the pope?

You are catholic and from Mainz, you have no right to have an opinion that is different from the pope (sadly me to) .

[Demosthenes]

Alright everyone check out JibJab for their personal amusement.

Thread over.

[LintMan]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
Why don't you take a look at Canada, where better health care than what is available in the U.S. (30th in the world vs. 38th), costs 57% as much per person.

I'm curious: can you tell me where you got those statistics from (meaning the health care world ranking and cost stats). Do you have a link? I'd love to check that out.

Thanks!

[Frosted Flake]

no hospital in the United States can turn away a patient in need. go to the emergency room in any hospital and the indigent poor receive treatment that the hospital knows will never be paid for- thats a fact. Yes the rich get better health care but if you think that isnt true everywhere ..well I have a bridge to sell you.
As for Mr. Kerry we have this thing called seperation of church and state and no religious group can tell there members how to vote. If Catholic leaders withhold the sacraments from politicians they dont like, which they can do, the government can take away their tax exempt status

Frosted Flake