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Old July 28th, 2004, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
Oh, I'm aware of it. In fact, it's worse than thievery.
Right. I think it's now quite clear that you have no interest in developing a functioning society, so there's little point in continuing this.

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It doesn't change the fact that the system sucks, because obviously, anyone who cares to afford to get out does so
Which doesn't change the fact that the U.S. system sucks because people who need treatment can't afford to get it.

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It's the principle of the matter! Give an inch, and they take a mile. Have you no sense of principle anymore? What is wrong with you people?!?
Your statement here is a textbook slippery slope fallacy.

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You still can't demonstrate what is *WRONG* with the lazy people argument.
What's wrong with it is that whether the person is lazy or not is irrelevant. They still deserve a standard of living that is better than the poverty line. They deserve this because they are _human_.

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The only difference between something that can go wrong, and something that can't possibly go wrong, is that when the latter goes wrong, it usually proves impossible to fix.
This statement has nothing to do with your paranoid fear of human beings that you don't have personal dealings with.

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You assume that we need every Last person we can get, and that the world is not overpopulated. We don't, and it is.
The U.S. is hardly overpopulated. Like I said, you are willing to throw up any amount of red herrings and smokescreens to disguise the fact that you don't care about those people simply because you don't personally know them.

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At least life would be interesting.
I think the only thing to say here is: May you live in interesting times.
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