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[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by Arryn:
If you'd ever actually seen a T34 (or any other tank), you know that 20-30 feet isn't hardly enough distance, unless you use a ultra-wide-angle lens, which isn't common on the el-cheapo point-n-click disposable cameras someone was mentioning. Oh, and you cannot fit one inside a basement, either. Too large, especially in height.

Yes, well, obviously, Storm has never seen one, since he can't believe that anyone might actually come to own such a thing, not that it's a terribly monumental task for anyone with some money, given that you can BUY SUCH THINGS OFF OF THE INTERNET even now. He also has yet to address the fundamental problem of how the hell I'm supposed to focus the camera while it's lying on the ground, or get anything other than an extended shot of the floor from that position, or even how the hell I'm supposed to get this picture to him, not to mention why he should be worthy of this effort at all, given that I don't really care what a little child like him thinks.

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ROLF. Norf, unfortunately for you, I happen to be a military history buff, with particular interesst for WW2 weapons. And what more, my grand-father got a top State Award of the Soviet Union (Stalin's Premium) for designing very different oil filtering system for T34 during WW2. So please, don't tell me about T34 unless you want to show yourself even more stupid that you already did, and make me laugh harder that I am laughing as already.

As for the rest of your photography troubles, as well as how can you make picture public, give me a break. 6 year old kid can handle such "challenging" tasks just fine.

[ July 29, 2004, 10:20: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

[spirokeat]

posted by Arynn

It gets worse yet: no brain, no neurons. No neurons, no thoughts at all. Sounds like oblivion to me.

posted by stormbinder
But according to your logic, after death the human will lack not only receptors, but pathways and even brain itself. At this point the question of your afterlife existense become rather moot

Filthy Monists ! and material ones at that !

[spirokeat]

To be fair to Norfleet Storm

How can we be sure that he didnt lose limbs and or mobility in the war, perhaps he only has one eye and thus no depth perception. Perhaps he is in fact, sat on a velvet cushion with a dialing wand clutched in his teeth, tapping away at the keyboard.

Thus compounding the difficulty of taking a photo to new levels. Heck, he would have enough problems just getting to the store to buy a cheap *** camera, never mind the mountainous task of getting his T34 out of the garage, into the drive, camera 30 ft away, focussed, timer set, then Hop Hop Hop ! back over the drive, up onto the T34 and into a vogue type pose. hop Hop off, back to the camera before some savage steals it, T34 back in the garage, Hop Hop Hop ! over to the developers....etc etc etc...you see where I'm going with his ?

Problematical is all I can say.

Spiro

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Arryn:

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
since he can't believe that anyone might actually come to own such a thing, not that it's a terribly monumental task for anyone with some money, given that you can BUY SUCH THINGS OFF OF THE INTERNET even now.

I suppose he'd not believe that there's a guy here in U.S., a private citizen, that owns a MiG fighter jet (or SU, I've forgotten which model he got)? And not one of the Korean-war vintage things, either. A very modern one. It was on network TV news some months ago. Of course, it's been disarmed. But it can still go supersonic, not that the FAA allows him to fly it that fast over the U.S.

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Perhaps the guy's name was Larry Ellison? He happened to be the CEQ of Oracle, I've worked in his company for 2 years. And of course I know that you can have such artifacts here in the USA. (as well as in other countries btw). It just that I don't believe Norfleet has anything to do with it, since as Graeme said his fictional character belong to mad max type of movies, not to the real world. But if you prefer to believe all his crazy stories that he keep telling about himself, that's your choice.

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by spirokeat:
To be fair to Norfleet Storm

How can we be sure that he didnt lose limbs and or mobility in the war, perhaps he only has one eye and thus no depth perception. Perhaps he is in fact, sat on a velvet cushion with a dialing wand clutched in his teeth, tapping away at the keyboard.

Thus compounding the difficulty of taking a photo to new levels. Heck, he would have enough problems just getting to the store to buy a cheap *** camera, never mind the mountainous task of getting his T34 out of the garage, into the drive, camera 30 ft away, focussed, timer set, then Hop Hop Hop ! back over the drive, up onto the T34 and into a vogue type pose. hop Hop off, back to the camera before some savage steals it, T34 back in the garage, Hop Hop Hop ! over to the developers....etc etc etc...you see where I'm going with his ?

Problematical is all I can say.

Spiro

ROFLOL!



The picture that you have described brought tears to my eyes Spiro. I see your point clearly. Life can be indeed tough to poor old norf, when you put it this way.

/walks away sobing/

[ July 29, 2004, 10:40: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

[spirokeat]

posted by Stormbinder
But if you prefer to believe all his crazy stories that he keep telling about himself, that's your choice

But surely if we accept that people somewhere do own vehicles of that nature albeit decomissioned ones, then what difference does it make if Norfleet has one or not?. Its not like hes trying to park it on your lawn ?

I propose, neither believing nor disbelieving and am quite sure I will have forgotten about this conversation in the next week or two, thus making ownership or non ownership moot. And if I have forgotten about it, well its tantamount to not having had it in the first place.

Spiro.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Stormbinder:
FYI the dimensions of T34 are 2.44m x 3.25 m (from the straigth front perspective). It not clearly as huge as you seem to believe Arryn.

T34/76 is 2.4m (h), 3m (w), 6.1m (l). T34/85 is 2.7m (h), 3m (w), 8.15m (l). IOW, it's as tall as the average home's interior ceiling height, 1.5 times as wide as a Chevy Suburban, and 20-60% longer. And by today's standards, it's a small tank. But still a large object to frame in the viewfinder. (One of my hobbies is photography/astrophotography, so I'm quite familiar with taking pictures, and I've probably been doing it since before you were born).

BTW, I've not only seen tanks, I've driven one (the M1A1, as well as the old M113 APC).