Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.

[Inigo Montoya]

Originally posted by Arryn:
Stormy and Norfy have a 'history' of mutual ... antagonism. I'm afraid that any calls for reason, calm, and restraint will fall upon deaf ears.

Looks to me like Norfleet has shown restraint. Only one pair of ears are deaf in this thread.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Stormbinder:
There is only *one* tactical dinamic AI in Dom2 program. You are confusuing it with strategic AI (your opponent).

This is the same in nearly every game. In all such games, however, any effect that causes control of your unit to pass over to the AI is always disastrous for you, whereas it has absolutely no effect on the AI, since it doesn't change the fact that the AI controls its own units.

You, as a player, have an option to use this dynamic tactical AI routine at any time, by scripting you mages to "spells". Your computer opponent *always* use the same tactical AI routine that you have access to.

This is a supremely counterproductive exercise, not to mention a conflict of interest: Since the objective is to DEFEAT the AI, by playing better than it does, it's very much counterproductive to play exactly the same as it does.

So if you script mages to spell, the *same* dynamic AI alhoritms will control *both* sides, with possible very rare exception that is the topic of this thread. But in any case the spell selection will use the same dinamic AI routine for both you and your opponent. Got it?

You're missing the point that in this case, the AI still controls its own units. You don't.

[sachmo]

There is no need for namecalling.

And yes, calling someone "stupid" is namecalling, as well as immature.

[Cheezeninja]

well in any event, be it a lucky attack rear that laid me low, or an actual Dom1 order, i think it should stay. Its good to be surprised by the AI every now and then and i dont mind that at all.

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Cainehill:

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Originally posted by Arryn:

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Originally posted by pinko commie:
[qb]but there is no need for name-calling and flaming, is there?

Stormy and Norfy have a 'history' of mutual ... antagonism. I'm afraid that any calls for reason, calm, and restraint will fall upon deaf ears.

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Stormy has a history of hypocrisy as well, demanding as a condition of my joining his game that I swear to stop flaming him, while obviously never passing up any opportunity to nail Norf.

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That's not entirely correct, as we both know. The first condition I requested was that you would not start any flame wars in our game thread agaist any fellow players, incuding Cohen, whom you never pass opportunity to flame, just like I do with Norfleet. So I would be carefull in your place with accusations of hypocricy. As I said, I have no desire to see another game thread with you in it to desintigrate into nasty flamewar. I think you understand my position.

On topic : Am I the only one who wishes that the phantom AI wouldn't decide that unscripted B1 sages should ... charge the attacking barbarian horde?

Just change them "holdx5"+"stay behind" or "retreat", while positioning them far int he back. Or give them blood+1 item so they would have *something* to cast, even when they don't have any bloodslaves.

But yes, perhaps it would be nice if any mages who don't have any efficient spells to cast, would just hold thier spot, instead of switihing to "stay behind" routine. Or maybe if devs would add "stay in your position" order to the script commands. I hate seeing my archers charging after they run out of arrows as well and geting slaugtered.

[ August 02, 2004, 21:08: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Alright, I've had enough of the Storm/Norf jabs. It seems with my recent allowance of people to express their opinion, that certain parties feel they need to get back on their very tired and dead horse.

Don't make me lock a thread just because two of you can't take your bluster and brawl to the playground and have to bring it here.

Hint taken?

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Cheezeninja:
well in any event, be it a lucky attack rear that laid me low, or an actual Dom1 order, i think it should stay. Its good to be surprised by the AI every now and then and i dont mind that at all.

Agreed.