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August 3rd, 2004, 04:32 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
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Originally posted by Norfleet:
Note also how, if left up to the AI, your pretender will be allowed to cast spells until it faints from exhaustion....but the AI's pretender won't do this: You can easily witness the AI's pretender casting its spells, and then ATTACKING YOU.
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I've seen an AI pretender do this in DM against another AI. I don't remember who vs who, but one cast spells until completely fatigued, the other cast spells, wasn't as fatigued, then just came and whacked them on the head repeatedly with a spoon until they died.
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August 3rd, 2004, 05:16 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
There we go, we have a witness. It happens.
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August 3rd, 2004, 05:31 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
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There we go, we have a witness. It happens.
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It may be unique to Deathmatch event, which is a special case in several regards, it may be a bug, it may be another ultra-rare legacy artifact from Dom1, it may wrong observation. I've played probably a hundred SP games, and never seen it happen. So even if it exist, it is so rare that it can be disrgarded, just like "attack commander" artifact from Dom1 game.
You can bet your *** that there are no two different algoritms for human mages and for computer mages. If it would be the case, than we all would witness it all the times, not a once-in-a-lifetime observation or anecdotical evidence.
In any case your false logic in general about dinamic AI and strategic AI having "principle advantage" over human player because "computer is always in control of thier troops, unlike human who in control for only 5 turns" just clearly shows that you don't understand what you are talking about. You are just trying to change a topic.
[ August 03, 2004, 05:17: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]
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August 3rd, 2004, 08:26 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
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Originally posted by Smauler:
I've seen an AI pretender do this in DM against another AI. I don't remember who vs who, but one cast spells until completely fatigued, the other cast spells, wasn't as fatigued, then just came and whacked them on the head repeatedly with a spoon until they died.
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When a mage runs out of spell options he is likely to run into combat (say, you have only researched a couple personal buffs and no range offensive spells, and have already cast the first ones on all legal targets), so this certainly doesn't prove anything.
JK doesn't like coding AI, why would he go through the pain of coding 2 different AI rutines when coding just one is a chore for him? Norfleet is just being paranoid.
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August 3rd, 2004, 08:52 AM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
Hmm, quoting myself...
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When a mage runs out of spell options he is likely to run into combat...
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TO be more precise I believe the mage defaults to 'stay behind troops', yet, if there are no troops to stay behind (as it's very likely in a DM) that results in the seen behaviour.
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August 3rd, 2004, 12:11 PM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
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Originally written by Norfleet:
Note also how, if left up to the AI, your pretender will be allowed to cast spells until it faints from exhaustion....but the AI's pretender won't do this:
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Originally written by Smauler:
I've seen an AI pretender do this in DM against another AI.
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Originally written by Norfleet:
There we go, we have a witness. It happens.
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Well, but this does not support your statement. You said this would only happen to player pretenders. Smauler says it happens to AI pretenders too.
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August 3rd, 2004, 04:38 PM
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Re: Underestimate the AI: Reap the consequences.
you've gotta be pretty bored to get into these arguments.. (and by "you" I mean everyone in this thread except for the original poster&replies) but i'll admit its quite amusing
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