I Was Ripped OFF!

[NTJedi]

What's FUNNY...

the title of the topic is about being Ripped Off yet the author never bought anything. LOL

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Arryn:
As for the Dom 2 demo's L4 magic limit's effects, when you bear in mind that the demo only has two small maps and a 40 turn limit

I'm not arguing about the 40 turn limit, but you'll run smack into an L4 limit in all of 7 turns. When it takes you that long to hit a wall, it's not a very convincing example of the game. This is like trying to start your demo car, only to notice that, well, there aren't any wheels.

Sort of like the food samples you get in supermarkets. A nibble so that you can decide if you like the item, but only enough to whet your appetite/desire.

Food samples happen to be a sample of the actual product. A sample of a pizza, for instance, consists of an actual chunk of the pizza. It doesn't consist of being permitted to nibble only upon a meatball.

I have bought many games (including Dom 2) after playing their demos, that I would not have bought without having tried the demo. And many games have I bought without a demo much to my regret. Demos are a GOOD thing.

And how many times have you decided to buy a game, only to realize that everything was more or less already in the demo, and the actual product had no meat to it? Demos are not necessarily a good thing: The time the developers spent on crippling the demo could have been spent more productively.

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
And how many times have you decided to buy a game, only to realize that everything was more or less already in the demo, and the actual product had no meat to it? Demos are not necessarily a good thing: The time the developers spent on crippling the demo could have been spent more productively.

Crippling the demo wasn't a mammoth task, and it is not a given that JK would have spent that time in any way you would have considered productive. The most likely effect would have been a slightly earlier release date, or JK watching more TV, it is not like there was a budget that could run out or anything.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
The time the developers spent on crippling the demo could have been spent more productively.

From the point of view of players who already own the game, yes. From the point of view of those who aren't already fans, not so. And then there's the point of view of the publishers, who need to maximize sales. A demo is a really good marketing tool, and thus a worthwhile investment of resources.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Arryn:

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
The time the developers spent on crippling the demo could have been spent more productively.

From the point of view of players who already own the game, yes. From the point of view of those who aren't already fans, not so. And then there's the point of view of the publishers, who need to maximize sales. A demo is a really good marketing tool, and thus a worthwhile investment of resources.

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yeah there the approach in dominions 1 demo was better .
it was like a demo should be

the dominions 2 demo there the turn limit is evil it doesn't let you win hehe .
was a bit too much restriction and even a bit counterproductive i think .

so for dominions 3 a mix is best i think :
only like in dominion 2 demo some playable races but they may recruit everything .
but a cap at research .
no turn limit .

so you see about 1/3 - 1/4 of the game and can really evaluate how cool it is .

in the dominions 2 demo unfortunately you couldn't evaluate much because the 40 turn limit there was frustrating . almost impossible to win in 40 turns on karan or desert eye .

this may even lead to defiance in some cases , e.g.:
the game seems really good but because the designers don't let me finish the demo i don't feed them with my money .

i think without 40 turn limit demo dominions 2 would have probably even sold better

[Arryn]

I think we have far less chance of getting the demo's 40-turn limit altered than we do getting the annoying 50-turn auto-rout limit in the regular game "fixed" ...

[Atrocities]

Well I am definately going to buy the game guys. I played it Last night and conqured a few regions around me and found that although there are a lot of things I would like to see added, the over all fun factor was very high.

A few questions though. I know that they have all been answered before, but I am, again, far to lazy to look.

Q 1. How do you build fortresses and temples in other regions?

Q 2. If your Pretender God is killed, how do you get another one?

Q 3. How do you improve production in other regions that have very low production?

I often find my self right clicking on the region trying to gain access to the build que or something. An old habit to be sure.

I have more question, mostly relating to how to research things, and how to get RP's and such.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks guys.