I Was Ripped OFF!

[atul]

Originally posted by Tumba:
By the way, I do demand that Kalevala is included into Dom3. I know it's an evil Swedish plot to humiliate their dear neighbour, but I must protest to the absence of it.

Of course, you have the power to pay them back. Kalevala-mod! Make it replace Vanheim to add an insult to injury, no more norses around. ;p

But were someone make such a mod, I'd think Vanheim would be a proper nation to be replaced as they share many traits in common - a bit of a cold preference, mythology originated near same geographical area, both at odds with same kind of people; Jotuns / people of the north. (for some reason I've identified Jots with the northern people of Kalevala: well, they're more north, bad guys and that Hag is somewhere in between norna and gygja, although a lot beefier)

I was entertaining a thought of making something a bit... similar just for a pastime a while ago, but it seems I won't have time/energy to start any mods as I feel there's so much to learn of the original nations still.

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by Boron:
but in the dominions 2 demo you already could only chose 7 nations and the lvl 4 research limit was still in it
so i think the 40 turn limit was unneccesary because even without that you only saw about 25% of the game so you still want to buy it but have a bit better overview

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The essential advantage of the turn limit is that it removes functionality, not just limit the features. At first when the dom 2 demo was released a few players complained that there were more than enough features and that some time spent on making these features should have been spent in other ways instead, improving graphics and whatnot. These players might well be satisfied with a demo that is just feature curtailed and that does not have a turn limit, so in order to encourage these players to buy the game the demo was slapped with a turn limit. Shrapnels staff also suggested this, and they have prior experience in this area. 40 turns is plenty time to grasp enough of the game to conclude if you will like it or not. A less restrictive demo might lead to less frustration amongst demo players but I doubt it would impact sales in a positive way.

[Karacan]

Originally posted by johan osterman:
A less restrictive demo might lead to less frustration amongst demo players but I doubt it would impact sales in a positive way.

What?! You're really in it for the money?

I wouldn't have bought Dominions I if the demo was as restrictive as the DomII demo - I loved the fact that I was able to complete games, and the fact that me with my full Version could netplay against demo-using friends of mine. This was great.

I finally bought it because I wanted to see all facets. And because it was cheap, and very very enjoyable. I only preordered DomII because of being (still) in love with DomI, and I'll preorder DomIII for the same reason.

[Agrajag]

Quite honestly, a turn limit demo would just make me upset, upset enough not to buy the game (and perhaps obtain it in um... other ways).
Though I didn't check the demo before getting Dom2 =P
You have to remember that its a pirate world out there and there's nothing you can do about it besides being nice to the paying customers (or having really cool MP option with really sucky SP options and an Online CD-Key check for MP).

[The Panther]

I find the title of this whole topic kind of odd. How can a person be ripped off for paying exactly nothing for the demo?

The one sole purpose of a demo is to get a person to plunk down money for the full game because it is proven as a good product. If a turn and magic limit help to achieve that goal for the developer, then the demo was successful. Heck, had they asked me, I would have said a level 2 magic limit would be even better as there are a lot of really cool level 3 and 4 spells out there that people would be dying to try out.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Agrajag:
Quite honestly, a turn limit demo would just make me upset, upset enough not to buy the game (and perhaps obtain it in um... other ways).

The demo is intended for people who aren't integrity-challenged and honesty-impaired. The sort of people who do not consider "other ways" to acquire merchandise that is normally sold, and who feel an obligation to reimburse merchants for what they receive. There is no point whatsoever to catering to folks on the Kazaa network, since such folks won't pay for games (or anything) even if the selling price was $5.

[Pickles]

Originally posted by The Panther:
"I find the title of this whole topic kind of odd. How can a person be ripped off for paying exactly nothing for the demo?"

Ironically?