New Jotun theme: Muspelheim

[Azhur]

This is my second time with modding (unfinished warcraft mod), but wish me luck and give some tips to make this theme as balanced, accurate and realistic as possible. EVERY SUGGESTION ON THIS THREAD WILL BE NOTIFIED.

Archaeolept: About Surt

Ok he's not a genie, but a fire giant. Loki's a good idea also, but since Surt is truly the one for Muspelheim, I like him better for the theme.

[ August 04, 2004, 17:29: Message edited by: Azhur ]

[Agrajag]

A pretty easy way to balance a mod is by looking at illwinter's mode guidelines in their mod page.
The only flaw is that troops that are balanced that way will be really boring because they'd have to be humanoids to fit the cost/attack/defense/strength/protection scheme of the guidelines...

[Thilock_Dominus]

You could use Loki as a hero who can join you. He is known of the god of trickster but also god of fire.

You could use the 'person' called 'Lue' which means fire. I don't know if you read the story where Utgaards-loki tricks Tor some challenging? Loki (Not utgaards-loki) should eat alot of food against 'Lue'...Loki lost the eating contest to Lue because noone can consume as much and fast as 'Lue'


best regards
Thilock *an asátruár*

[Azhur]

Originally posted by Thilock_Dominus:
You could use Loki as a hero who can join you. He is known of the god of trickster but also god of fire.

You could use the 'person' called 'Lue' which means fire. I don't know if you read the story where Utgaards-loki tricks Tor some challenging? Loki (Not utgaards-loki) should eat alot of food against 'Lue'...Loki lost the eating contest to Lue because noone can consume as much and fast as 'Lue'


best regards
Thilock *an asátruár*

Loki as a hero.. why not? And Lue is the ultimate supply-consumer. Not bad at all.

I'm thinking of making muspelheim a bit different in the ways of endurance. These are giants who are
literally too hot to keep any kind of armor, so they trust on their high hp rating (40? 50?). Some are capable of wearing armor, but it must be made of steel, otherwise it would burn down. That'll make protection value high, but their encumbarance is incredible high (pick a <5) and defence is also much lower. Balancing this will be somewhat difficult, but test and try is the way to go...

[ August 05, 2004, 05:59: Message edited by: Azhur ]

[Sandman]

You might want to give them a bit of earth magic, so they can get magma spells.

[Vicious Love]

Originally posted by Azhur:
Some are capable of wearing armor, but it must be made of steel, otherwise it would burn down. That'll make protection value high, but their encumbarance is incredible high (pick a <5) and defence is also much lower.

Exactly like Abysia.
I suppose we should also note that this theme's access to fire magic and fire immune units provides a defense against Dom 2's most reliable giantkillers: Swarms of expendable goons(Especially undead), and point-blank annihilation*. A giant mage is also one of the few non-SC mages that can be safely placed in the front lines, casting Flame Eruption after Flame Eruption.

* Granted, shock resistance would be a good deal more useful. Still, fire resistance beats cold resistance by a not-insignificant margin.

[Azhur]

First problem(s) sprouted... bad monster descr. Hope you can solve it. I used the ashikaga.md as a body for my project, so there are some insignificant affinities. The project is still under heavy construction, but please post comments also. Still lacks priests, additional mages, new pretender, national heroes+spells and unique equipment.

#modname "Fire of Muspelheim"
#domVersion 2.12
#description "A mod changing the nation of Jotunheim into the homeland of Muspehulm, a nation of fiery giants who worship their almighty fire giant god, Surt."
#icon "./muspelheim/muspelicon.tga"
#Version 0.2 "Mod created by Azhur for use in the public domain. This mod uses unit numbers 1800-1811 and an alternate nation flag.

New National Summons

Summon Lava Golem (5F) - Summons a lava golem with high protection and strength. (Not implemented yet)

#newarmor 300
#name "Rock Mail"
#type 5
#prot 8
#def -2
#enc 3
#end

#newmonster 1800
#name "Muspel Militia"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/militia.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/militia2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 13
#mapmove 2
#hp 38
#prot 2
#size 4
#str 18
#enc 5
#att 10
#def 8
#prec 10
#mr 12
#mor 10
#gcost 33
#rcost 12
#weapon "Jotun Axe"
#armor "Rock Mail"
#fireres 100
#coldblood
#end

#newmonster 1801
#name "Muspel Hurler"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/muspelhurler.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/muspelhurler2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 13
#mapmove 2
#hp 35
#prot 3
#size 4
#str 20
#enc 4
#att 10
#def 5
#prec 10
#mr 12
#mor 12
#gcost 40
#rcost 10
#weapon "Boulder"
#weapon "Axe"
#armor "Rock Mail"
#fireres 100
#coldblood
#end

#newmonster 1802
#name "Muspel Axeman"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/axeman.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/axeman2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 12
#mapmove 2
#hp 39
#prot 5
#size 4
#str 20
#enc 6
#att 10
#def 9
#prec 10
#mr 12
#mor 12
#gcost 40
#rcost 20
#weapon "Jotun Axe"
#armor "Rusty Scale Mail Hauberk"
#fireres 100
#coldblood
#end

#newmonster 1803
#name "Muspel Huskarl"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/huskarl.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/huskarl2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 13
#mapmove 2
#hp 38
#prot 4
#size 4
#str 20
#enc 5
#att 10
#def 11
#prec 10
#mr 12
#mor 13
#gcost 48
#rcost 15
#weapon "Jotun Spear"
#armor "Rock Mail"
#fireres 100
#coldblood
#end

#newmonster 1804
#name "Muspel Giant"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/muspelgiant.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/muspelgiant2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 14
#mapmove 3
#hp 85
#prot 3
#size 4
#str 23
#enc 4
#att 11
#def 11
#prec 11
#mr 15
#mor 14
#gcost 200
#rcost 24
#weapon "Jotun Axe"
#armor "Rusty Scale Mail Hauberk"
#fireres 100
#coldblood
#heat
#holy
#end

#newmonster 1805
#name "Muspel Wanderman"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/wanderman.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/wanderman2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 14
#mapmove 2
#hp 43
#prot 3
#size 4
#str 22
#enc 4
#att 12
#def 10
#prec 10
#mr 13
#mor 13
#gcost 66
#rcost 7
#weapon "Jotun Battleaxe"
#armor "Rock Mail"
#fireres 100
#coldblood
#mountainsurvival
#end

#newmonster 1806
#name "Muspel Hirdman"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/hirdman.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/hirdman2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 13
#mapmove 2
#hp 45
#prot 3
#size 2
#str 14
#enc 2
#att 13
#def 17
#prec 13
#mr 11
#mor 14
#gcost 100
#rcost 18
#weapon "Jotun Longsword"
#armor "Rusty Scale Mail Hauberk"
#fireres 100
#coldblood
#end

#newmonster 1807
#name "Muspel Scout"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/scout.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/scout2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 14
#mapmove 2
#hp 42
#prot 3
#size 4
#str 22
#enc 4
#att 12
#def 10
#prec 10
#mr 13
#mor 13
#gcost 65
#rcost 8
#weapon "Jotun Spear"
#weapon "Javelin"
#armor "Rock Mail"
#noleader
#stealthy
#holy
#fireres 100
#coldblood
#mountainsurvival
#end

#newmonster 1808
#name "Muspel Herse"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/herse.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/herse2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 13
#mapmove 2
#hp 43
#prot 5
#size 4
#str 21
#enc 6
#att 11
#def 11
#prec 10
#mr 12
#mor 13
#gcost 80
#rcost 18
#weapon "Jotun Longsword"
#armor "Rusty Scale Mail Hauberk"
#holy
#okleader
#fireres 100
#coldblood
#end

#newmonster 1809
#name "Muspel Jarl"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/jarl.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/jarl2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 13
#mapmove 2
#hp 48
#prot 5
#size 4
#str 22
#enc 6
#att 12
#def 12
#prec 10
#mr 13
#mor 14
#gcost 150
#rcost 18
#weapon "Jotun Longsword"
#armor "Rusty Scale Mail Hauberk"
#fireres 100
#holy
#goodleader
#end

#selectmonster 1810
#name "Muspel Worshipper"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/worshipper.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/worshipper2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 15
#mapmove 2
#hp 42
#prot 3
#size 4
#str 21
#enc 4
#att 11
#def 13
#prec 10
#mr 17
#mor 12
#gcost 270
#rcost 12
#weapon "Quarterstaff"
#armor "Rock Mail"
#fireres 100
#magicskill 0 3
#magicskill 5 1
#magicskill 50 1
#poorleader
#researchbonus 7
#end

#newmonster 1811
#name "Muspel King"
#spr1 "./muspelheim/king.tga"
#spr2 "./muspelheim/king2.tga"
#descr ""
#ap 14
#mapmove 3
#hp 100
#prot 3
#size 4
#str 25
#enc 4
#att 12
#def 16
#prec 12
#mr 18
#mor 15
#gcost 640
#rcost 35
#weapon "Jotun Longsword"
#armor "Rusty Scale Mail Hauberk"
#fireres 100
#holy
#heat
#fear -3
#goodleader
#researchbonus 7
#end

#selectnation 12

#name "Muspelheim"
#descr "First of worlds was Muspellheim, in the Southern regions. It is bright and hot. That place is aflame, and burning and it is impassable to those who
are not native to it. There is one called Surt who is stationed there at the frontier to defend that land. He has a flaming sword and at the end of the world
he will go and wage war and burn the whole world with fire."

#flag "./muspelheim/muspelflag.tga"
#color 0.60 0 0.43
#clearrec
#nothemes

#clearsites
#startsite "Fountain of Fire"
#startsite "Fountain of Fire"
#end

[Norfleet]

I suppose we should also note that this theme's access to fire magic and fire immune units provides a defense against Dom 2's most reliable giantkillers: Swarms of expendable goons(Especially undead), and point-blank annihilation*. A giant mage is also one of the few non-SC mages that can be safely placed in the front lines, casting Flame Eruption after Flame Eruption.

That reminds of my suggested Abysia theme, "Blood of Giants", with Giantbred (immune to both heat and cold), as a gag poking fun at the Jotunheim "Smouldercone Traitors" theme in....2.08?