So why do I try?

Skolem · #1 August 5th, 2004, 09:42 AM

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Oh and if anyone wants pythium in "newbies_unite" give me a ring on this message.

It's going computer in one day.

Also if you want Vanehiem in Fareun Folly give me a ring.

If you really want a replacement could you post a new hread who says that clearly, or change the title of this one to something like "need a replacement"
It would make it clearer.
For the newbies_unite (who isn't really newbieish), please wait for a replacement it would seriously hurt the game if you go to AI
Skolem

Cohen · #2 August 5th, 2004, 11:01 AM

I'd agree with Skolem about the replacement.
Since you're the major power, and for what I've seen you're bashing your enemies.
Even with some loss.

I've tried Pyth in single player, and I've had the same problem ...

Simply Shaman isn't so good to cast relief after having casted Comm Master.
The AI seems to be scripted to cast any buff he can before anything else.
So a communioned Shaman get astral shield, astral weapon, protection/barskin, etc etc ... wasting a huge amount of turns in casting buffs only.

I believe however communion is wonderful, and allows you to cast spells that usually you can't.

Soapyfrog · #3 August 5th, 2004, 03:18 PM

In the same vein of "why do I try"

Why would my arch devil cast firestorm with less gems than I gave him for the purpose (he used 7 of the 10, after casting phoenix power... oh and he is wearing a flame helmet so the net result is F6).

Basically he cast it and knocked himself out, dumb blighter, when he could have used the rest fo the gems and come out of it with less than 100 fatigue. Grrr. Well obviously there is something I do not understand!

And then this souped up Golem tanked my 110 devils and killed another arch devil in hand to hand. Damn. And my arch devil had a hell sword, armour of souls, boots of quickness, rings of frost and tamed lightning and a flame helmet and yet he continually missed 75% of his strikes until the golem turned on him and killed him with two blows. Geez! Although i did shave him down to less than 20 HP, if my other archie hadnt knocked himself out casting firestorm I am sure I would have had him.

God this game can be frustrating when you can lose such a powerful force to a single Golem...

Agrajag · #4 August 5th, 2004, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by Soapyfrog:
In the same vein of "why do I try"

Why would my arch devil cast firestorm with less gems than I gave him for the purpose (he used 7 of the 10, after casting phoenix power... oh and he is wearing a flame helmet so the net result is F6).

Basically he cast it and knocked himself out, dumb blighter, when he could have used the rest fo the gems and come out of it with less than 100 fatigue. Grrr. Well obviously there is something I do not understand!

And then this souped up Golem tanked my 110 devils and killed another arch devil in hand to hand. Damn. And my arch devil had a hell sword, armour of souls, boots of quickness, rings of frost and tamed lightning and a flame helmet and yet he continually missed 75% of his strikes until the golem turned on him and killed him with two blows. Geez! Although i did shave him down to less than 20 HP, if my other archie hadnt knocked himself out casting firestorm I am sure I would have had him.

God this game can be frustrating when you can lose such a powerful force to a single Golem...

Try a huge army of Avalon Knights routing because this stupid commander decided to rout after getting hit with an arrow >_<

Cohen · #5 August 5th, 2004, 04:34 PM

How was the golem equipped?

Huzurdaddi · #6 August 5th, 2004, 05:25 PM

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For the newbies_unite (who isn't really newbieish), please wait for a replacement it would seriously hurt the game if you go to AI

WAA?

Truper · #7 August 5th, 2004, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Soapyfrog:
In the same vein of "why do I try"

Why would my arch devil cast firestorm with less gems than I gave him for the purpose (he used 7 of the 10, after casting phoenix power... oh and he is wearing a flame helmet so the net result is F6).

Basically he cast it and knocked himself out, dumb blighter, when he could have used the rest fo the gems and come out of it with less than 100 fatigue. Grrr. Well obviously there is something I do not understand!

I can't quite make this add up, unless I assume that one of the gems was used to reduce the fatigue of casting Phoenix Power. But the key point is that a mage cannot use more gems than his effective level in the path concerned. So your AD had fire 6, but Firestorm itsef costs 5 gems. So he uses 6 gems to cast it, but only one gem gets used to raise his effective level to 7 - 2 levels above that needed to cast firestorm. That means that he's going to take 1/3 the listed fatigue, but Firestorm has a fatigue of 500, so thats 166 fatigue, not including the minor amounts from casting Phoenix Power, whatever the encumbrance of an AD is (I'm too lazy to look it up), whatever armor he might have been wearing, and two rounds of wearing a flame helmet, which has reinvigoration of -3. All things considered, you're lucky he didn't kill himself outright

If we get lucky, maybe one of the real formula mavens will have a look at this and explain where that other gem went (and point out any other errors I might have made).