The New Forum Software!

Fyron · #1 August 8th, 2004, 04:21 PM

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As for the forum sorting issue. Boron and others, there was a poll, there was not a small fraction of people who wanted the ability to choose the sorting method and this is the step to do so. As of *right* exactly now, there is no way to view the forums like they were (With reversed order), but Richard is over the next few days going to be coding that into the forum so it will be availiable, just when is the question

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That poll is largely irrelevant because it was _not_ properly promoted to all of the Shrapnel forums. It is a very biased reflection of the forum membership. Not to mention the poor wording chosen on the options in it...

#2 August 8th, 2004, 04:31 PM

That hardly matters now, does it? They bought the software, they installed it and now we have these forums which have the possiblity of making the options of choosing how you'd like it as opposed to having it one way without any options along with a feature that has been missing in downloading.

Fyron · #3 August 8th, 2004, 05:25 PM

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That hardly matters now, does it? They bought the software, they installed it and now we have these forums which have the possiblity of making the options of choosing how you'd like it as opposed to having it one way without any options along with a feature that has been missing in downloading.

It matters in that it can not validly be used as a representation of what the majority of the forumers want.

We do NOT have the option to display Posts how we would like it. They are forced in the oldest to newest order.

#4 August 8th, 2004, 05:33 PM

As of right now you don't, but Richard has already said he's going to be working on coding that particular feature. As of right now, you can also do alot of things that you couldn't previously.

Validity has nothing to do with something that has already happened. Justification doesn't really matter at the point that they decided to upgrade the forums (for any number of reasons, not the least of which would be because newer, non SEIV gamers had a hard time using them) and that the possibility of having the option is there, whereas with the old way there was not even the possibility.

There are quirks with any new software that have to be worked out, but whining about it doesn't solve the problem, yeah?

Fyron · #5 August 8th, 2004, 05:39 PM

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There are quirks with any new software that have to be worked out, but whining about it doesn't solve the problem, yeah?

Who is whining? I have simply repeated what I have said from day one of that polls existence. There is a huge difference between discussing the validity of a sample of data and whining about a forum upgrade. I was doing the former.

#6 August 8th, 2004, 05:44 PM

If that's the case and what you've been doing since day one, I'm sure you could have posted a link to the poll or made a new one if you felt it was biased or innaccurate.

I liked the former style as well and this forum upgrade has caused it's share of headaches for me, but I doubt discussing (instead of arguing) the validity of the reasoning *why* the forum change happened is going to do much of anything. I don't think Shrapnel made it's decision based on any one aspect, considering their official stance has been "Sorry if you don't like it, we'd love your business but if you can't handle it, then you don't have to." roughly summed up.

Richard · #7 August 8th, 2004, 05:50 PM

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If that's the case and what you've been doing since day one, I'm sure you could have posted a link to the poll or made a new one if you felt it was biased or innaccurate.

I liked the former style as well and this forum upgrade has caused it's share of headaches for me, but I doubt discussing (instead of arguing) the validity of the reasoning *why* the forum change happened is going to do much of anything. I don't think Shrapnel made it's decision based on any one aspect, considering their official stance has been "Sorry if you don't like it, we'd love your business but if you can't handle it, then you don't have to." roughly summed up.

Well I wouldn't go that far. I think we have been more than helpful in working through issues that have been brought up. No matter what forum software we chose, a move from a non database (ie, flat file) forum that is ancient to a modern database based one is going to be painful. I am actually quite please at how most of it went off without a hitch. As we run into issues we will make decisions as to how to balance out everyone's desires. Remember what one person hates on a board, another person loves.

This wasn't aimed at you Zen, but I wanted to clarify things a bit. Thanks for your help so far, and suggestions.

Fyron · #8 August 8th, 2004, 08:25 PM

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Hmmm Im not sure it was meant to be a poll of what the forumers want.

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If that's the case and what you've been doing since day one, I'm sure you could have posted a link to the poll or made a new one if you felt it was biased or innaccurate.

It wasn't really relevant, just a place for a few people to ***** before leaving the forums. Not something I would want to support.

PrinzMegaherz · #9 August 8th, 2004, 05:33 PM

So, what options do I have to take if I want to use the old style forum (or at least the newest - oldest order)

Fyron · #10 August 8th, 2004, 05:36 PM

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So, what options do I have to take if I want to use the old style forum (or at least the newest - oldest order)

There is nothing you can do. Richard has mentioned that he might modify the forums to allow us to choose the newest to oldest post order. The list of topics can be displayed in any order, but the topics themselves are always displayed oldest post to newest post.